Innocent Family Ripped from Home at Gunpoint

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Published on Apr 20, 2013
WATERTOWN, MA -- On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people's homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.

[scorpionmain]

Welcome to the USSA, comrades!

[guncrank1]

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[jackalo626]

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[Van Zan]

If the homeowner had refused based on lack of a search warrant he would be cuffed, arrested and charged with disturbing the peace and resisting arrest with a busted door to boot.

[jackalo626]

If the homeowner had refused based on lack of a search warrant he would be cuffed, arrested and charged with disturbing the peace and resisting arrest with a busted door to boot.

You think it is ok? I'm not looking to argue because I see both sides and there is no good choice I see honestly but I like hearing views from everyone.

[BIGC]

If the homeowner had refused based on lack of a search warrant he would be cuffed, arrested and charged with disturbing the peace and resisting arrest with a busted door to boot.

You think it is ok? I'm not looking to argue because I see both sides and there is no good choice I see honestly but I like hearing views from everyone.

HELL NO it is not OK.......... I would have been the one to resist even if being arrested because that is illegal search.

[Mike]

This makes me SICK! I seriously couldn't waych it all. I keep telling myself "MAYBE" this is a case where there WAS a warrant or something we don't know but my mind keeps telling me to wake up.

Just like in Katrina, I feel there will be some case law from these types of instances. Katrina gave the people the right to not be disarmed during an emergency. I feel Boston will show us that terrorist hide and seek is not exigent circumstances to search a neighborhood without warrants. I hope it does at least. If it doesn't, where do you draw the line? Bombs? Mass shootings? 3, 4, 5, or 6 spree killings?

What if the homeowner was asleep on his couch and they busted in there and he opened fire on them(Yeah he would die but what about the end result?)

What if nobody answered the door? For fear of their rights being stripped away? Would these men and women bust the door down and search anyways?

I just don't know what to think about this situation. It makes me so angry because I see it from two sides, the civilian side and the officer side being told to do something unconstitutional. This just makes me feel like we have turned into a third world country overnight. It really saddens me for more reasons than most.

[Mike]

And I was actually talking about this today. I would probably allow the officers to search my house(I know I know) if I was there anyways with consent(depending on how they approached me anyways) because I would want the officers AND the public to know that my house was "safe" so they could move along. I think most people in that situation really would when it came down to it BUT NOT if the cops approached me like they did in this video!

[irishrob]

From watching this, they don't show a bit of interest in any of the surrounding houses. Makes me wonder if someone tipped them off to specifically that house. You would think they would have officers covering all the houses. Also reminds me of a clown car as many people that came out of the house. Also I would be one of them going to jail as I wouldn't let them have free access to my house even though I have nothing to hide.

[Frailer]

I don't consent to searches. Period.

No tough guy talk; I'm not going to shoot anybody under these conditions, but they'll have to cuff me.

[jackalo626]

If the homeowner had refused based on lack of a search warrant he would be cuffed, arrested and charged with disturbing the peace and resisting arrest with a busted door to boot.

You think it is ok? I'm not looking to argue because I see both sides and there is no good choice I see honestly but I like hearing views from everyone.

HELL NO it is not OK.......... I would have been the one to resist even if being arrested because that is illegal search.

I want to hear his answer specifically because he says they would be arrested for disturbing the peace if they didn't let the police search. So by his theory you have to provide search authorization and I am curious as to his answer. Specifically focusing on the part about they get arrested if they don't consent. Does that go for anytime they want to search or just when a serious event is going on etc....

[Van Zan]

If the homeowner had refused based on lack of a search warrant he would be cuffed, arrested and charged with disturbing the peace and resisting arrest with a busted door to boot.

You think it is ok? I'm not looking to argue because I see both sides and there is no good choice I see honestly but I like hearing views from everyone.

Absolutely not. I am stating what I think would have happened after watching the video. The kicker is that without the video I'll betcha most judges would side with the Police.

I know that there the cops are in a really tough spot with bombs and bullets flying, islamic terrorists running around like it's Baghdad but come on guys this is the United States of America. People have rights.

I am afraid what we are seeing is the new normal.

[jackalo626]

If the homeowner had refused based on lack of a search warrant he would be cuffed, arrested and charged with disturbing the peace and resisting arrest with a busted door to boot.

You think it is ok? I'm not looking to argue because I see both sides and there is no good choice I see honestly but I like hearing views from everyone.

Absolutely not. I am stating what I think would have happened after watching the video. The kicker is that without the video I'll betcha most judges would side with the Police.

I know that there the cops are in a really tough spot with bombs and bullets flying, islamic terrorists running around like it's Baghdad but come on guys this is the United States of America. People have rights.

I am afraid what we are seeing is the new normal.

I agree that though illegal the police would have went in anyway and found a reason after the fact if they said no.

[Van Zan]

If the homeowner had refused based on lack of a search warrant he would be cuffed, arrested and charged with disturbing the peace and resisting arrest with a busted door to boot.

You think it is ok? I'm not looking to argue because I see both sides and there is no good choice I see honestly but I like hearing views from everyone.

HELL NO it is not OK.......... I would have been the one to resist even if being arrested because that is illegal search.

I want to hear his answer specifically because he says they would be arrested for disturbing the peace if they didn't let the police search. So by his theory you have to provide search authorization and I am curious as to his answer. Specifically focusing on the part about they get arrested if they don't consent. Does that go for anytime they want to search or just when a serious event is going on etc....

Disturbing the peace and resisting arrest are catch-alls that are hard to defend against in court. You have a whole group of police officers testifying against one citizen who raised his voice and "disturbed the peace" and then didn't submit as completely to arrest as the officer wanted. It really sucks but that is the reality of the situation. It really helps if you have video that doesn't end up as "evidence" in police storage.

It will be interesting to see if the liberals at the ACLU challenge this. I predict they let it slide.

[ChopperDoc]

all those cops just milling around and not paying ANY attention to any of the other homes (that we can see). I would be interested to know if they did that house to house like that or if that one house met the requirements for entry without a warrant (or permission).

I too, would have to be cuffed. I will not consent. Warrant or I say no. If you come in anyway, well, we shall see what the courts have to say about it later I suppose.

[scorpionmain]

As I watched the videos above, I imagined what I would do if my street were filled with armed, armored, paramilitary. I imagined when they came to my door I would politely decline to admit them. I wonder what would happen then. I thought of my children, their fear as paramilitary officers forced us into the street, and their terror if one of these officers, patience worn thin, attacked me or my family for not submitting to their authority.

We are a society of sheep. A few weeks ago I watched a six-part documentary about Auschwitz, and I wondered at the millions of East German Jews that were led from their homes to be sequestered in ghettos, and then led from the ghettos to be slaughtered at the death camps. I realized that this is the nature of humanity. It is the nature of governments to take power and to grow in power, and it is the nature of those who are governed to behave like sheep, to do as we are told, and to trust in government to protect us.

We have a Bill of Rights because the Founding Fathers knew that the government they were creating would grow in power and that it would eventually seek to oppress its citizens. It is the nature of government. They knew that the Crown had all of the power and the People had none, so they sought to protect our liberties through the document they created. One of the very specific abuses that they sought to prevent was soldiers or other government agents entering citizen’s homes without a warrant based upon probable cause, “particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Bobby G. Frederick is a criminal defense lawyer in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
http://www.trialtheory.com/uncategorize ... p-america/

[scorpionmain]

Guard your freedoms jealously in times of crisis.

[awesomePOSSUM]

I watched the news of the police going inside people's houses and wondered about the laws. I would have said no you may not come in but there isn't a terrorist here. Then I assumed they'd get you out if your house anyways.