I am going to vote for Trump.
I am going to vote for Trump.
Saw a speach from Trump and one from Bill Dick the the other day and it sealed it for me. Bill Dick trashed Obama Care for what it is a whoreafication of what it should have been IMHO universal health care. While the message from Trump is spot on and what I consider the corner stone of my political ideas of Dashammerism that being America and Americans First, I will admit that sometimes the messanger does get real close to the WTF line. Trump is going to get my vote.
Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
Dashammer wrote:Saw a speach from Trump and one from Bill Dick the the other day and it sealed it for me. Bill Dick trashed Obama Care for what it is a whoreafication of what it should have been IMHO universal health care. While the message from Trump is spot on and what I consider the corner stone of my political ideas of Dashammerism that being America and Americans First, I will admit that sometimes the messanger does get real close to the WTF line. Trump is going to get my vote.
While he is in no means the ideal candidate, we need every swinging $#@* to take this same approach and to vote that way. Unfortunate for us is the electoral college seems to leave it up to just a few states no matter what. My hope is that at least perhaps Ohio and maybe Florida come around and swing the same way as you. Californication is lost to the left coast forever. This is probably one of the most important elections in the last 50 and maybe 100 years with the SCOTUS selections coming up.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
There isn't enough difference between Clinton and Trump for me to compromise my integrity by voting for either.
In some ways, this election is very similar to 2012, when the Right tried to convince me that I was supposed to vote for the guy who invented Obamacare and signed an "assault rifle" ban into law.
In some ways, this election is very similar to 2012, when the Right tried to convince me that I was supposed to vote for the guy who invented Obamacare and signed an "assault rifle" ban into law.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
Agreed. I will not vote for the giant douche or the turd sandwich........third party here we go. IMO its all BS anyway but ill still vote in the hopes it actually matters.Frailer wrote:There isn't enough difference between Clinton and Trump for me to compromise my integrity by voting for either.
In some ways, this election is very similar to 2012, when the Right tried to convince me that I was supposed to vote for the guy who invented Obamacare and signed an "assault rifle" ban into law.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
I'm with Dave. It matters in one place and to one extent. We can't allow Hillary's picks for SCOTUS. Period. I will vote in whatever way is most likely to accomplish that. I don't understand why everyone is crying all of a sudden. Americans have chosen between the lesser of two evils for over 150 years.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
While, like Frailer, I really don't have any great love for either candidate, I must agree with PDM in that we absolutely cannot allow Hitlery to pick 3 or 4 of our next SCOTUS judges. The court is already dangerously top heavy with liberal judges who like to legislate from the bench. We need, badly, some stronger conservative voices on that bench. We cannot go on with a never ending stream of 4-4 tie votes, in the end, we the people, will lose.
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And that wont ever change as long as we continue to allow it. Its going to take a few elections of one candidate squeaking by with a very low percentage and third party candidates slowly rising in % of votes before the system can be fixed (if a fix is even possible at this point im skeptical). It seems there is always a reason to vote the lesser of 2 evils to stop (fill in the blank), but we will continue to vote this way until we decide it needs to change and we stop allowing the parties to run the system. I agree the thought of Hillary picking at least one (maybe up to 3) supreme court justices is terrifying......but then again so is the thought of Trump. Ill at least have the assurance to know i didnt vote either of those assholes in to office even if i am stuck with them in the end.PDM wrote:I'm with Dave. It matters in one place and to one extent. We can't allow Hillary's picks for SCOTUS. Period. I will vote in whatever way is most likely to accomplish that. I don't understand why everyone is crying all of a sudden. Americans have chosen between the lesser of two evils for over 150 years.
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The fix has to come from the states. It will never come from Washington
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
If we can eventually get the right people in office the entire system will get overhauled (term limits for all including SCOTUS is needed badly IMO). But continuing to vote for the lesser of 2 evils will only screw us in the long run. Its time to change it and the only way to do so is not vote for either parties candidate.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
Agreed. Our state reps must make it happen. They wont do that when they are bought by a political party.PDM wrote:The fix has to come from the states. It will never come from Washington
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
Which boils down to a vote for Hitlery.Fudge wrote:Nope. Never Trump, and never Hilary. I'm voting for a hamster.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
I'm voting Trump because fuck Hillary. And I don't think a 3rd party is any different. We would just end up voting for the lesser of 3 evils instead of two, and we would have a leader of the country that 66% of the voting public didn't vote for.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
The Grand Old Party doesn't want him either. There were 17 other options, sadly this is what America has chosen.Fudge wrote:
Oh well.
Guess the Grand Old Party should have put up someone better than Trump.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
We the people need to realize that this trend of voting in the next politician that comes of age gets us in the exact same position we are in. We need to start voting in wildcards, sure there experiance is limited, but from my observation experiance gets us the turds we have had. Sure some were not as bad as others but still stinky turds. We need to look to the private sector to get people in there that have not been totally corupted. Honestly i dont think Trump will save us, and I think much of what he says will get shot down in the house and senate, but both parties have tried and failef to stop him, he is the only candidate that has even the remote possibility of being somthing other then typical. Ya he has my vote as well but my expectations are low while my hopes are high.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
For me this election is all about the justices on the supreme court, without question. There seem to be a "clump" of them who will be retiring/dying over the next 4 to 8 years. Presidents come and go, and we just hope they don't wreak too much havoc in between. Unfortunately for the country, the most recent was more havoc than anything else.
While the president is either 4 or 8 years, a SCOTUS justice can serve for decades. In his era of legislation from th4e bench, the choices are critical.
I was planning on voting for the third guy, but he has turned out to be an idiot. Since he is an idiot too, never Hillary becomes the driver in my choice.
IMO the country cannot tolerate Hillary, which means i must hold my nose and vote for Trump. I can only hope he surrounds himself with really good people to do the actual work while he plays at being prom king.
While the president is either 4 or 8 years, a SCOTUS justice can serve for decades. In his era of legislation from th4e bench, the choices are critical.
I was planning on voting for the third guy, but he has turned out to be an idiot. Since he is an idiot too, never Hillary becomes the driver in my choice.
IMO the country cannot tolerate Hillary, which means i must hold my nose and vote for Trump. I can only hope he surrounds himself with really good people to do the actual work while he plays at being prom king.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
My left-leaning friends tell me a third party vote is a vote for Trump.Wyldman wrote:Which boils down to a vote for Hitlery.Fudge wrote:Nope. Never Trump, and never Hilary. I'm voting for a hamster.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
this is one of the first times where I think the third party may actually be pulling votes from both of the main two.Frailer wrote:My left-leaning friends tell me a third party vote is a vote for Trump.Wyldman wrote:Which boils down to a vote for Hitlery.Fudge wrote:Nope. Never Trump, and never Hilary. I'm voting for a hamster.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
I would never vote for HILLARY...ever....unless the vote was asking to see if she should be tried for treason.
All the elections back to Reagan I was voting against someone else. Seems to ring true again. My votes didn't work out so well the last few times but I hope and pray they do this time. I thoroughly am convinced that Hillary will be elected though. I so hope I am wrong.
Face it, the people on this board are not the majority and not the typical Americans who go into a voting situation with just some idea that they like one or the other because they heard them talk once and it sounded good or that they always vote along the party line. Most of us look at a lot of the issues, research, listen, talk and try to make an educated decision who will best represent us out of all the bullshit we hear. And thats what a politician does is tell you lots of bullshit.
All the elections back to Reagan I was voting against someone else. Seems to ring true again. My votes didn't work out so well the last few times but I hope and pray they do this time. I thoroughly am convinced that Hillary will be elected though. I so hope I am wrong.
Face it, the people on this board are not the majority and not the typical Americans who go into a voting situation with just some idea that they like one or the other because they heard them talk once and it sounded good or that they always vote along the party line. Most of us look at a lot of the issues, research, listen, talk and try to make an educated decision who will best represent us out of all the bullshit we hear. And thats what a politician does is tell you lots of bullshit.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
My fear is all those who vote 3rd party are pulling votes away from Trump, allowing Hitlery to narrowly slip into office. Just my .02. I will vote Trump and hope his shortcomings prove a better choice than Hitlerys known evil doings and intentions.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
If America had the time I might agree with you. Fact is it is probabbly too late allready, Hillary is the coup des gras, guaranteed. Trump is a wild card. The vote is basically rapid, certain death, or icu for a term, with slight chance of a recovery. Hillary wins because never trump, and you can say goodbye to America, think france.Rem700 wrote:And that wont ever change as long as we continue to allow it. Its going to take a few elections of one candidate squeaking by with a very low percentage and third party candidates slowly rising in % of votes before the system can be fixed (if a fix is even possible at this point im skeptical). It seems there is always a reason to vote the lesser of 2 evils to stop (fill in the blank), but we will continue to vote this way until we decide it needs to change and we stop allowing the parties to run the system. I agree the thought of Hillary picking at least one (maybe up to 3) supreme court justices is terrifying......but then again so is the thought of Trump. Ill at least have the assurance to know i didnt vote either of those assholes in to office even if i am stuck with them in the end.PDM wrote:I'm with Dave. It matters in one place and to one extent. We can't allow Hillary's picks for SCOTUS. Period. I will vote in whatever way is most likely to accomplish that. I don't understand why everyone is crying all of a sudden. Americans have chosen between the lesser of two evils for over 150 years.
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I have more faith in America than this.richief wrote:If America had the time I might agree with you. Fact is it is probabbly too late allready, Hillary is the coup des gras, guaranteed. Trump is a wild card. The vote is basically rapid, certain death, or icu for a term, with slight chance of a recovery. Hillary wins because never trump, and you can say goodbye to America, think france.Rem700 wrote:And that wont ever change as long as we continue to allow it. Its going to take a few elections of one candidate squeaking by with a very low percentage and third party candidates slowly rising in % of votes before the system can be fixed (if a fix is even possible at this point im skeptical). It seems there is always a reason to vote the lesser of 2 evils to stop (fill in the blank), but we will continue to vote this way until we decide it needs to change and we stop allowing the parties to run the system. I agree the thought of Hillary picking at least one (maybe up to 3) supreme court justices is terrifying......but then again so is the thought of Trump. Ill at least have the assurance to know i didnt vote either of those assholes in to office even if i am stuck with them in the end.PDM wrote:I'm with Dave. It matters in one place and to one extent. We can't allow Hillary's picks for SCOTUS. Period. I will vote in whatever way is most likely to accomplish that. I don't understand why everyone is crying all of a sudden. Americans have chosen between the lesser of two evils for over 150 years.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
I hate to say it, but I completely agree with the fact that a 'non-vote' is a vote for Hitler.
I'm not a fan of Trump, but he can be 'handled' and will be surrounded by smarter people than him who are not hell bent on making America a liberal European- like hippy commune.
If hitler wins, our children are not going to recognize the USA.
I'm not a fan of Trump, but he can be 'handled' and will be surrounded by smarter people than him who are not hell bent on making America a liberal European- like hippy commune.
If hitler wins, our children are not going to recognize the USA.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
America, maybe. Washington, no, never. It is naive to think Washington will ever self-regulate. They have been feeding that pig since the Bill of Rights was ratified. No significant reduction in federal overreach will ever come from within. We have to stop thinking ideally, and start thinking realistically.Frailer wrote:I have more faith in America than this.richief wrote:If America had the time I might agree with you. Fact is it is probabbly too late allready, Hillary is the coup des gras, guaranteed. Trump is a wild card. The vote is basically rapid, certain death, or icu for a term, with slight chance of a recovery. Hillary wins because never trump, and you can say goodbye to America, think france.Rem700 wrote:And that wont ever change as long as we continue to allow it. Its going to take a few elections of one candidate squeaking by with a very low percentage and third party candidates slowly rising in % of votes before the system can be fixed (if a fix is even possible at this point im skeptical). It seems there is always a reason to vote the lesser of 2 evils to stop (fill in the blank), but we will continue to vote this way until we decide it needs to change and we stop allowing the parties to run the system. I agree the thought of Hillary picking at least one (maybe up to 3) supreme court justices is terrifying......but then again so is the thought of Trump. Ill at least have the assurance to know i didnt vote either of those assholes in to office even if i am stuck with them in the end.PDM wrote:I'm with Dave. It matters in one place and to one extent. We can't allow Hillary's picks for SCOTUS. Period. I will vote in whatever way is most likely to accomplish that. I don't understand why everyone is crying all of a sudden. Americans have chosen between the lesser of two evils for over 150 years.
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Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
There are criminals among us who are both homicidal and incorrigible. Their parents took a shot at civilizing them and failed. Their school teachers took a shot at them and failed. The odds are overwhelming that government welfare programs and penal institutions took a shot at them and failed. If it ever becomes your turn to take a shot at them, don’t fail.
Re: I am going to vote for Trump.
I will say we have taken the scraping the bottom of the barrel to a whole new level. Hell we picked the barrel up and dug into that area under the barrel that is devoid of life other that cockroaches, slimey earthworms and hard shell bug that run from the light when you pick the barrel up. It's a pick your mental issue either a narrassistic bafoon, or a scoipathic liar with major self esteem issues. At least Trump doesn't try to hide his turdness, he is up front about it, Hillary on the other hand trys to blow smoke up your a-- about her turdness. IMHO I will pick the one who is up front and doesn't try to hide who they are every time. You guys are right it is alot about the SCOTUS and how it will turn out over the next decade and beyond. Let Hillary pack it with her people and you can take the constitution and throw it in the trash.