Active shooter(s) in San Bernardino

[Tomahawk]

I found some tavors on a website. I think this is just people panicking with no real basis..
But im half tempted to buy this tavor. Ahould I? I think this white house thing is overblwon. If anything itll just be exec order with expanded background check, not AWB.

I want to buy ammo right now. Not a 1600 tavor

[Tomahawk]

Wife said they said that the FBI stated that these people had to have help affording all the stuff they had, it was worth 30K. I said yeah they probably think a thousand rounds of ammo costs $5000 by FBI standards

Article said they guy made 70K a year. 3,000 rounds of ammo could be very affordable at that salary.

What I could buy with 70k a year....

Cost of living there compared to Corbin KY is about 20% different (thought you lived in corbin)

http://www.areavibes.com/cost-of-living ... orbin,+ky/

apt rent in corbin is 742 and out there is 1988

home insurance is 850 in corbin and 2700 in SB, CA

making 55k in corbin is equal to 70k out there.

That calculator is depressing. I want to move back to pnw and id need an increase anywhere from 30 to 50% to maintain my standard of living. WTF.

[Dave1965]

I found some tavors on a website. I think this is just people panicking with no real basis..
But im half tempted to buy this tavor. Ahould I? I think this white house thing is overblwon. If anything itll just be exec order with expanded background check, not AWB.

I want to buy ammo right now. Not a 1600 tavor

I have a Tavor, its meh

[Dave1965]

Seems like these people did get monetary help by the bank deposit records.

[WLJ]

I found some tavors on a website. I think this is just people panicking with no real basis..
But im half tempted to buy this tavor. Ahould I? I think this white house thing is overblwon. If anything itll just be exec order with expanded background check, not AWB.

I want to buy ammo right now. Not a 1600 tavor

In the last big ban bill they tried to pass after Sandy Hook the selling of Tavors were to be banned by name, not features like on ARs. Something to think about.

I have a Tavor, its meh

All guns are meh when you can't find the ones in your own house..

[WLJ]

I found some tavors on a website. I think this is just people panicking with no real basis..
But im half tempted to buy this tavor. Ahould I? I think this white house thing is overblwon. If anything itll just be exec order with expanded background check, not AWB.

I want to buy ammo right now. Not a 1600 tavor

Atlantic firearms have them in right now.

[gaston_kalash]

http://youtu.be/oePCncK77i0
This is why we when against the left.

[jackalo626]

I found some tavors on a website. I think this is just people panicking with no real basis..
But im half tempted to buy this tavor. Ahould I? I think this white house thing is overblwon. If anything itll just be exec order with expanded background check, not AWB.

I want to buy ammo right now. Not a 1600 tavor

I have a Tavor, its meh

That was my take.

[WLJ]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

[jackalo626]

Wild situation.

[Frailer]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

Good on Apple.

[Rem700]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

Good on Apple.

Yes and no. Private citizen not yet convicted of a crime...yes, known murderer/terrorist whom has killed US citizens....hell no

[ssracer]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

Good on Apple.

Yes and no. Private citizen not yet convicted of a crime...yes, known murderer/terrorist whom has killed US citizens....hell no

The ruling by Pym, a former federal prosecutor, requires Apple to supply software the FBI can load onto Farook's county-owned work iPhone to bypass a self-destruct feature that erases the phone's data after too many unsuccessful attempts to unlock it. The FBI wants to be able to try different combinations in rapid sequence until it finds the right one.

You give something like that to the FBI and think they'll only use it on this one phone?

[Frailer]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

Good on Apple.

Yes and no. Private citizen not yet convicted of a crime...yes, known murderer/terrorist whom has killed US citizens....hell no

The ruling by Pym, a former federal prosecutor, requires Apple to supply software the FBI can load onto Farook's county-owned work iPhone to bypass a self-destruct feature that erases the phone's data after too many unsuccessful attempts to unlock it. The FBI wants to be able to try different combinations in rapid sequence until it finds the right one.

You give something like that to the FBI and think they'll only use it on this one phone?

But all they want to do is stop terrorists! It could save lives! Think of the children!

I *HATE* the "t-word."

[Rem700]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

Good on Apple.

Yes and no. Private citizen not yet convicted of a crime...yes, known murderer/terrorist whom has killed US citizens....hell no

The ruling by Pym, a former federal prosecutor, requires Apple to supply software the FBI can load onto Farook's county-owned work iPhone to bypass a self-destruct feature that erases the phone's data after too many unsuccessful attempts to unlock it. The FBI wants to be able to try different combinations in rapid sequence until it finds the right one.

You give something like that to the FBI and think they'll only use it on this one phone?

Very good point. I did not know it was anything like that. I figured Apple...being the one who designed the software, had a back door into the locked phone and is refusing to use it for privacy issues.

[richief]

The recordings from NSA is good enough for them.
Good for Apple to say screw them.

[WLJ]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

Good on Apple.

Yes and no. Private citizen not yet convicted of a crime...yes, known murderer/terrorist whom has killed US citizens....hell no

The ruling by Pym, a former federal prosecutor, requires Apple to supply software the FBI can load onto Farook's county-owned work iPhone to bypass a self-destruct feature that erases the phone's data after too many unsuccessful attempts to unlock it. The FBI wants to be able to try different combinations in rapid sequence until it finds the right one.

You give something like that to the FBI and think they'll only use it on this one phone?

Very good point. I did not know it was anything like that. I figured Apple...being the one who designed the software, had a back door into the locked phone and is refusing to use it for privacy issues.

I find it hard to believe Apple didn't leave themselves a backdoor. I also wonder if the Chinese slipped one in considering the fact it was probably made in a Chinese factory.

[richief]

Pretty sure apple could just take the thing apart and access the memory, the alphabet agencies would prob like a master key though, that's what I think they are fishing for.

[ssracer]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

Good on Apple.

Yes and no. Private citizen not yet convicted of a crime...yes, known murderer/terrorist whom has killed US citizens....hell no

The ruling by Pym, a former federal prosecutor, requires Apple to supply software the FBI can load onto Farook's county-owned work iPhone to bypass a self-destruct feature that erases the phone's data after too many unsuccessful attempts to unlock it. The FBI wants to be able to try different combinations in rapid sequence until it finds the right one.

You give something like that to the FBI and think they'll only use it on this one phone?

Very good point. I did not know it was anything like that. I figured Apple...being the one who designed the software, had a back door into the locked phone and is refusing to use it for privacy issues.

I find it hard to believe Apple didn't leave themselves a backdoor. I also wonder if the Chinese slipped one in considering the fact it was probably made in a Chinese factory.

leaving yourself a back boor is just leaving every hacker a back door

[dbh]

Probably about any teenager could hack it!

[WLJ]

Pretty sure apple could just take the thing apart and access the memory, the alphabet agencies would prob like a master key though, that's what I think they are fishing for.

Even if you hardware access the memory directly without the proper encryption key the data you will be extracting is meaningless. Modern encryption is pretty darn difficult to crack even with the newest computers. A brute force crack could takes decades or more.

[WLJ]

Apple CEO vows to resist court order to hack iPhone of San Bernardino terrorist
http://www.wdrb.com/story/31240185/appl ... -terrorist

Good on Apple.

Yes and no. Private citizen not yet convicted of a crime...yes, known murderer/terrorist whom has killed US citizens....hell no

The ruling by Pym, a former federal prosecutor, requires Apple to supply software the FBI can load onto Farook's county-owned work iPhone to bypass a self-destruct feature that erases the phone's data after too many unsuccessful attempts to unlock it. The FBI wants to be able to try different combinations in rapid sequence until it finds the right one.

You give something like that to the FBI and think they'll only use it on this one phone?

Very good point. I did not know it was anything like that. I figured Apple...being the one who designed the software, had a back door into the locked phone and is refusing to use it for privacy issues.

I find it hard to believe Apple didn't leave themselves a backdoor. I also wonder if the Chinese slipped one in considering the fact it was probably made in a Chinese factory.

leaving yourself a back boor is just leaving every hacker a back door

Sometimes yes, sometime no. There are sneaky ways of doing it.

[WLJ]

Heating up

DOJ files motion to compel Apple to comply in San Bernardino investigation
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/19/do ... tcmp=hpbt1

[Toddstang]

Heating up

DOJ files motion to compel Apple to comply in San Bernardino investigation
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/19/do ... tcmp=hpbt1

You cant beat the Feds.

Im sure Hussein Obama will create an EO that overrides any company secrets.

[RecoilSensitive]

Apple is one company that may be able to win. They have the $$$$ to spend. And simply say fuck you.