The Why NOT for the SERPA holsters

[ChopperDoc]

I have been seeing more and more places which provide firearms training banning these holsters in their courses.

I own two, never had trouble with them, but did not abuse them like the guy in this article claims to.

Whatcha think?

http://pistol-training.com/archives/8848

[1fastmach1]

I use a serpa holster myself and haven't encountered any problems. Granted, I don't carry it every day as some people would.

With that being said, I've heard a lot of people bashing the serpa holsters. I've read lots of negative threads about them as well. It might be time to let mine go.


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[mtchbrian]

I've used mine more times than I can count. My Beretta one has been everywhere with me. The army just got a multimillion dollar contract to purchase these in drop leg format for soldiers.

http://kitup.military.com/2013/12/army- ... odels.html

[ssracer]

Interesting. I've got one for my 1911 but it doesn't get much use

[Wyldman]

I have one for my G21, but I have never fully trusted it. Retention responsibilities lie with the user, not a piece of kit, IMO.

I've never really been a fan of plastic holsters, even kydex. The Serpa retention catch just seems to me to be something else that can/will fail at the worst possible moment. Even thumb break snaps are prone to not work right more often than not. As a result, I almost always take them off of my holsters. If a holster is properly fitted to the weapon, it shouldn't require retention.

My .02 worth, FWIW. You may now feel free to bash on me for my opinions.

[DDgunslinger]

To each their own, I ran the Serpa for a few years and never had an issue. However, I will say I much prefer a custom kydex holster over the more mechanical serpa. That's just my point .02 on subject, I have no Serpa hate.

[justang1997]

I have had dirt get behind my serpa release paddle and temporarily jam it.
I also almost ripped the serpa off my belt at red river gourge when a rope slid under it. It did not break under my bodyweight. It felt like it was going to.
I have also had my safariland dump my gun while low crawling.

I think the answer may be a safariland als with a lanyard for serious field use. The serpa is nice for owb winter ccdw when you aren't rolling in the mud.


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[justang1997]

Interesting. I've got one for my 1911 but it doesn't get much use

I'm sure you have seen the video of tex on youtube popping himself in the leg with a serpa and 1911.

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[justang1997]

Interesting. I've got one for my 1911 but it doesn't get much use

I'm sure you have seen the video of tex on youtube popping himself in the leg with a serpa and 1911.

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[son of liberty]

I HATE THE SERPA. well thats not fair, the holster is great really, its a quality affordable decent holster, the stupid button thing had to be made by the same person that invented the abortion. I have never had a ND or near ND, but I have had the damn button jam up countless times. If you dont first push the button then pull, the retainer tap will get stuck on the trigger guard, and you will have to fumble fuck start over. The funny part is there is no fucking reason for the whole button gayness, I took them out of mine, removed the pin took the spring and button off, used the screw to adjust retention and the holster works great. To me it represents marketing hype , something to make there holster "So much better" then every other cheap plastic holster.

[justang1997]

Why wouldn't you just use a fobus or bladetech or something if you don't need extra retention?

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[son of liberty]

Well I sure would not buy them again, but im not really one to sell this or that either, so make it work and use what you have.

[ssracer]

Interesting. I've got one for my 1911 but it doesn't get much use

I'm sure you have seen the video of tex on youtube popping himself in the leg with a serpa and 1911.

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Yeah, but not once has my finger ever gone to the trigger when drawing from mine...and I have used it in timed competition shoots. I rarely ever carry the 1911 and when I do 9 times out of 10 it's in a leather holster

[jackalo626]

Interesting. I've got one for my 1911 but it doesn't get much use

I'm sure you have seen the video of tex on youtube popping himself in the leg with a serpa and 1911.

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he shot his damn self and it had nothing to do with the holster. That guy is a joke.

[ssracer]

The whole trigger thing is bullshit IMO. When I draw from mine, if I keep my finger where it was when releasing the lock as the gun comes out it's along the frame, not in the trigger guard. That whole thing was not a holster issue, it was an idiot user issue.

[justang1997]

Idk, maybe he was an idiot. (probably) maybe it was the holster. Just seems extra risky using a serpa with a single action trigger especially when lots of people take the safety off on the draw.

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[ssracer]

[justang1997]

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[ssracer]

[ChopperDoc]

The whole trigger thing is bullshit IMO. When I draw from mine, if I keep my finger where it was when releasing the lock as the gun comes out it's along the frame, not in the trigger guard. That whole thing was not a holster issue, it was an idiot user issue.

i tend to agree.

I am doubting that there is any data to show any higher ND rate with the SERPA compared to other holsters but there still seems to be a trend of tactical training facilities not allowing them on their ranges.

If there are mechanical issues, as mentioned in the article, I can see that, but I need to do some research before I buy into it.

[justang1997]

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[DDgunslinger]

Hahaha

[Toddstang]

Guy sounds like a whiney little bitch to me. Things break over time. I wish my shoes would last forever, but you know what? They wear out, so do holsters and everything else.

[justang1997]

Yeah but your feet don't become hopelessly jammed in your shoes. A gun can become jammed in a serpa even if it's brand new. And I may have to reread what he said but I think he was advocating that the spring be serviceable, not that it should last forever.

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[Toddstang]

Yeah but your feet don't become hopelessly jammed in your shoes. A gun can become jammed in a serpa even if it's brand new. And I may have to reread what he said but I think he was advocating that the spring be serviceable, not that it should last forever.

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I have used mine for over 4 years now and never had an issue. Talking about bumping into things and breaking the spring, yea seems like it could be designed better that way. I may need to re read article, I skimmed through it, but from what I gathered he was talking about them wearing out.