Making a Murderer
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Making a Murderer
Started watching Making a Murderer last night with my wife. Pretty crazy stuff. Just wonder how much we are not getting from law enforcement's side of things. All evidence presented so far is pretty damning of law enforcement. We hear of cases all the time being dismissed over technicalities and breach of rights etc. This case seems to have all that and more and yet he is still in prison.
Every law enforcement person that they interview is clearly nervous as hell and IMO is lying through their teeth. But again we are only seeing one side.
Anybody else watching it and have any thoughts?
Every law enforcement person that they interview is clearly nervous as hell and IMO is lying through their teeth. But again we are only seeing one side.
Anybody else watching it and have any thoughts?
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Re: Making a Murderer
The wife and i are planning a marathon watch soon. Heard its good.
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Re: Making a Murderer
My biggest speculation is on the police though. The very people he was sueing were the ones conducting the search of his property......and found the evidence......if that's not conflict of interest then I don't know what is. They already framed him for a rape and he did 18 hrs for it. Now 2 weeks after the law suit he murders this girl.....seems way to crazy to be true and law enforcement has too much at stake and way too much evidence pointing to a set up. Just my opinion.jmeister wrote:We are 3 episodes in so far. Curious to see if things starts swinging the other direction towards guilt.
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Pretty good show so far. Only watched 2 episodes.... wild to say the leastRem700 wrote:My biggest speculation is on the police though. The very people he was sueing were the ones conducting the search of his property......and found the evidence......if that's not conflict of interest then I don't know what is. They already framed him for a rape and he did 18 hrs for it. Now 2 weeks after the law suit he murders this girl.....seems way to crazy to be true and law enforcement has too much at stake and way too much evidence pointing to a set up. Just my opinion.jmeister wrote:We are 3 episodes in so far. Curious to see if things starts swinging the other direction towards guilt.
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Re: Making a Murderer
The documentary does seem pretty one-sided but the notion that there wasn't a shred of reasonable doubt in this situation is ludicrous on its face. There was plenty of motivation for law enforcement to make Steven Avery go away (again). I typically err on the side of LEOs versus scumbag assholes but I think the line has blurred in this instance. Hope I'm wrong and the truth may lie somewhere in between. We may never know. Eye opening documentary if nothing else.
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Watching with the wife also. Crazy, just crazy. Conflict of interest is way beyond the point of him getting a fair trail.
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What I don't get is te key wasn't found until the 7th or 8th search and wasn't found until the guy who was being sued found it. Also don't know why his blood that was collected had been clearly tampered with.
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Yep just some of the many nails in the coffin for law enforcement. But from watching so far it seems the judge has been paid off. Every time they bring up one of these very valid points the judge dismisses it or doesn't allow them to delve into it enough to be relevant. This just seems to be a gross perversion of our legal system from top to bottom. The interview with Andy Colbourne where he is asking about the girls license plate and tells the model and make of the car on the day she was reported missing and 2 days before the vehicle was found was to say the least damning for him. Seems he planted the vehicle and thats why he knew the plate make and model. He could not explain why he was calling in that info 2 days before the vehicle was found.gaston_kalash wrote:What I don't get is te key wasn't found until the 7th or 8th search and wasn't found until the guy who was being sued found it. Also don't know why his blood that was collected had been clearly tampered with.
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Yeah if you watch it when he realizes he just told on himself his eyes get huge. I feel sorry for the kid that got drug into all this. His life is now ruined because some detectives coerced him to say the things he said. I know kids like him that will admit to anything you tell them just for attention and to feel like tree doing something good. You'd think since there was zero evidence to back up what the detectives had him admit to what he said he did that would set him free but nope.
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You could tell the whole time he had no idea what was going on. He simply agreed to what they asked because he didn't understand and wanted to go home. The kid is almost like Forest Gump slow. Its obvious he aint all there in the head.gaston_kalash wrote:Yeah if you watch it when he realizes he just told on himself his eyes get huge. I feel sorry for the kid that got drug into all this. His life is now ruined because some detectives coerced him to say the things he said. I know kids like him that will admit to anything you tell them just for attention and to feel like tree doing something good. You'd think since there was zero evidence to back up what the detectives had him admit to what he said he did that would set him free but nope.
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I'm on episode 3 now. This show keeps you hooked because as soon as you're 100% convinced he's innocent they introduce new material that makes you uncertain...only to have THAT stuff proven to be false too. I feel like I'm at Wimbledon. Haha.
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Re: Making a Murderer
I think I'm on episode six so far.
If I were a member of the jury Id have a really hard time convicting him.
In my mind there isn't enough evidence to say he's guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
If I were a member of the jury Id have a really hard time convicting him.
In my mind there isn't enough evidence to say he's guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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I've got to check this out. Never heard of it besides this thread
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Same here. Too much circumstantial evidence and no real proof. Just a lot of we think and what if. Finished episode 9 last night.Livewire wrote:I think I'm on episode six so far.
If I were a member of the jury Id have a really hard time convicting him.
In my mind there isn't enough evidence to say he's guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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On more charges with much less evidence than Avery. The only evidence they had on the kid was his coerced confession.Next wrote:Finally was able to finish it this weekend. I can't believe the 17 year old was convicted.
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This just goes to show that you never answer any questions without a lawyer present. Bunch of crazy
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My first thought as well. Apparently the kids first public defender is not doing so well these days. He was the one who let the kid get questioned while he wasn't present.ballscutoff1978 wrote:This just goes to show that you never answer any questions without a lawyer present. Bunch of crazy
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Picture he drew up was from the bedroom, but no Blood? Then Avery was convicted on killing in the Garage. I wish they would track down and interview more of the Jurors from the kids trial. Wonder what they were thinking? VERY SCARY...
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Plus he was asked to draw a picture of what they described. He didn't pull it from memory. He was told draw a pic of her tied to the bed. Draw a pic of her in the burn pit.