11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by WLJ » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:46 pm

And it's back up and reworded.

Franklin Armory Reformation: It’s a Smoothbore 5.56. Maybe.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/0 ... bore-5-56/
Do to some confusion, and ongoing confusion, we removed the original post and have reposted the post post-haste. I had the chance to shoot the Franklin Armory Reformation today. I snuck a peak down the barrel and didn’t see any rifling. For less information click here. We will know for sure tomorrow.
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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by kokopelli » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:15 am

This whole thing has been a train wreck. I don’t think it will end up having the results for FA they want it to.

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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by WLJ » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 pm

Fin-stabilized Ammo
So how is this non-SBR not an SBR?

Good question. According to the numbers and letters below, the Reformation isn’t a rifle, because the bore isn’t rifled.
Its 11.5″ barrel has lands and groves cut straight down the bore.
Well, according to the Franklin rep they are achieving 4 MOA with off-the-shelf ammo, so it’s minute of bad guy. They are releasing fin-stabilized projectiles that, from their testing, have produced near MOA accuracy.
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Franklin Armory, a Straight Shooter? Design Details Confirmed.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/0 ... confirmed/
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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by WLJ » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:49 pm

Sooooo, it is not quite a smooth-bore and not rifled at the same time.
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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by Dustin » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:50 pm

Its a waste. Unless your hard core against getting an NFA item it useless.
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Post by WLJ » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:52 pm

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Post by guncrank1 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:00 pm

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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by samb. » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:43 pm

Not impressed. a pistol with a brace is a better option. I will but some of their nerf ammo though, mainly because I am curious how it will do out of my rifled barrel.

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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by WLJ » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:51 pm

Now what happens when you put that ammo into a reg rifle barrel?
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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by samb. » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:31 pm

WLJ wrote:Now what happens when you put that ammo into a reg rifle barrel?
When they release it I'll let you know

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Post by ssracer » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:33 pm

What’s the guess....$3 a round?


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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by Rem700 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:17 pm

I have no words for this foolishness.

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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by WLJ » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:24 pm

ssracer wrote:What’s the guess....$3 a round?


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$10 per round for the R.I.P. version.
They go through denim car doors.
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Post by kokopelli » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:44 pm

Rem700 wrote:I have no words for this foolishness.
one word: STUPID

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Post by samb. » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:13 pm

ssracer wrote:What’s the guess....$3 a round?


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Probably about $350 per thousand depending on the grain.

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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by Toddstang » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:01 pm

Confirmed sources must of been the Russians.

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Toddstang wrote:Confirmed sources must of been the Russians.
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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by WLJ » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:58 pm

So I guess everyone has lost interest at this point?
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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by Jff24Gordn » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:08 pm

For most of us, if we want a SBR, we just get the stamp. But there are Commie states that collude with Russia where you can’t have a SBR. It might sell there.

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Post by ssracer » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:19 pm

I’d rather have a pistol with a brace than this thing.


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Post by kokopelli » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:43 pm

Range toy at best

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Re: 11.5” non-NFA AR with a stock

Post by WLJ » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:54 pm

I think this sums it up

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