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Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by BK Meyers » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:58 pm

I have heard about people finding out-of-spec lowers but until now it had not happened to me. Putting together an Anderson lower the other night and could not get the Safety detent pin to drop into the hole far enough. Turns out the hole had not been drilled completely. Luckily had the proper size drill bit and made the correction.

Next out-of-spec item(s) - using 2 different LPK's from PSA. In both kits the rear takedown pin was oversized just slightly. I fought them thinking the lowers were out of spec (again Anderson lowers). Nope, the outer diameter of the pins was too large. Scrounged some pins from some other LPK's and they popped right in like they were supposed to.

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Post by WLJ » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:06 pm

Seems like virtually every time I hear about an out of spec lower the name Anderson is on it.
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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by ssracer » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:04 pm

WLJ wrote:Seems like virtually every time I hear about an out of spec lower the name Anderson is on it.
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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by Dave1965 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:10 pm

ssracer wrote:
WLJ wrote:Seems like virtually every time I hear about an out of spec lower the name Anderson is on it.
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oh how quickly we forget ACCURATE ARMORY tales!!!!

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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by WLJ » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:14 pm

Dave1965 wrote:
ssracer wrote:
WLJ wrote:Seems like virtually every time I hear about an out of spec lower the name Anderson is on it.
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oh how quickly we forget ACCURATE ARMORY tales!!!!
Who forgot? Just hear a lot more about Andersons because I would bet there's 50 Andersons out there for every 1 AA, seemed like every one and their brother was/is selling them. Bet you got at least 20,000 stashed away somewhere. If you can remember where they are that is.
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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by Niceguy » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:35 pm

WLJ wrote:
Dave1965 wrote:
ssracer wrote:
WLJ wrote:Seems like virtually every time I hear about an out of spec lower the name Anderson is on it.
yup


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oh how quickly we forget ACCURATE ARMORY tales!!!!
Who forgot? Just hear a lot more about Andersons because I would bet there's 50 Andersons out there for every 1 AA, seemed like every one and their brother was/is selling them. Bet you got at least 20,000 stashed away somewhere. If you can remember where they are that is.
50 to 1?! I bet 5000+ to 1...

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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by Toddstang » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:45 pm

Anderson got me on a lower and LPK , out of spec.

At least they have good CS.

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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by iron369 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:48 pm

I’m not defending Anderson at all because selling something that is supposed to have a specific tolerance should not be out of spec. But... cranking out very high volumes is what makes them cheap. There’s tons and tons of them out on the market. People don’t complain about all the ones that work just fine. 1% out of spec with Anderson is a whole lot more units than 1% out of spec for Colt. Both have them.
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Post by kokopelli » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:18 pm

WLJ wrote:Seems like virtually every time I hear about an out of spec lower the name Anderson is on it.
x5 for me...

A few years back when I bought enough parts from Anderson minus barrel to build 5 rifles, all 5 had catastrophic defects.

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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by WLJ » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:52 pm

iron369 wrote:I’m not defending Anderson at all because selling something that is supposed to have a specific tolerance should not be out of spec. But... cranking out very high volumes is what makes them cheap. There’s tons and tons of them out on the market. People don’t complain about all the ones that work just fine. 1% out of spec with Anderson is a whole lot more units than 1% out of spec for Colt. Both have them.
To add to that Anderson was cranking them out by the metric shit ton during the panic(s) of the Obama years.
I wonder how many people got hundreds or thousands squirreled away hoping they were going to be able to flip them for 10x what they paid for them because a Obama/Hillary ban of any thing AR was right around the corner?
There are criminals among us who are both homicidal and incorrigible. Their parents took a shot at civilizing them and failed. Their school teachers took a shot at them and failed. The odds are overwhelming that government welfare programs and penal institutions took a shot at them and failed. If it ever becomes your turn to take a shot at them, don’t fail.

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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by iron369 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:15 pm

WLJ wrote:
iron369 wrote:I’m not defending Anderson at all because selling something that is supposed to have a specific tolerance should not be out of spec. But... cranking out very high volumes is what makes them cheap. There’s tons and tons of them out on the market. People don’t complain about all the ones that work just fine. 1% out of spec with Anderson is a whole lot more units than 1% out of spec for Colt. Both have them.
To add to that Anderson was cranking them out by the metric shit ton during the panic(s) of the Obama years.
I wonder how many people got hundreds or thousands squirreled away hoping they were going to be able to flip them for 10x what they paid for them because a Obama/Hillary ban of any thing AR was right around the corner?
It’s just a matter of time before it happens again.
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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by Whootsinator » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:27 pm

Niceguy wrote:
WLJ wrote:
Dave1965 wrote:
ssracer wrote:
WLJ wrote:Seems like virtually every time I hear about an out of spec lower the name Anderson is on it.
yup


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oh how quickly we forget ACCURATE ARMORY tales!!!!
Who forgot? Just hear a lot more about Andersons because I would bet there's 50 Andersons out there for every 1 AA, seemed like every one and their brother was/is selling them. Bet you got at least 20,000 stashed away somewhere. If you can remember where they are that is.
50 to 1?! I bet 5000+ to 1...
Absolutely, Anderson has cranked out an insane number of lowers.
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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by Niceguy » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:52 pm

iron369 wrote:
WLJ wrote:
iron369 wrote:I’m not defending Anderson at all because selling something that is supposed to have a specific tolerance should not be out of spec. But... cranking out very high volumes is what makes them cheap. There’s tons and tons of them out on the market. People don’t complain about all the ones that work just fine. 1% out of spec with Anderson is a whole lot more units than 1% out of spec for Colt. Both have them.
To add to that Anderson was cranking them out by the metric shit ton during the panic(s) of the Obama years.
I wonder how many people got hundreds or thousands squirreled away hoping they were going to be able to flip them for 10x what they paid for them because a Obama/Hillary ban of any thing AR was right around the corner?
It’s just a matter of time before it happens again.
Absolutely agree...

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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by Toddstang » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:03 pm

Buy cheap, stack deep.

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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by Dave1965 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:17 pm

centerfire had them for 30 recently. It is hard to resist that.

For many many years, you couldn't get them for anything less than 75 dollars and many times they were more than that

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Re: Out of spec lower and out of spec takedown pins

Post by guncrank1 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:23 am

I have seen every make of lower with some issue.

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