9mm defense ammo options

1fastmach1 · Post by **1fastmach1** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:45 pm

So, I've recently started cc a lot more in the last couple months. I bought my shield a few weeks back and outfitted it with the full apex system (enhancement and trigger package). I just ordered one of the alien gear concealments holsters and now I need some options of what ammo to carry. I've not shot much 9mm in the likes of defense rounds so I don't know what's out there and what's popular.

If you could, give me some ideas of what's worth trying, what your using and why.

Best places to pick up defense ammo because I've not seen it on the shelf?

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Post by **Marcus** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:48 pm

Coach wrote:Hydrashok. Pick a grain weight

/thread

Agreed.

Post by **86 slo-vo** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:49 pm

My shield runs perfect on 124g +p SB gold dots, handles them good.

1fastmach1 · Post by **1fastmach1** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:53 pm

Walmart had some 9mm HST rounds. Is that new hydroshock packaging? It was like 24.95 for a box of 20 I believe.

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1fastmach1 · Post by **1fastmach1** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:00 pm

Gotcha. What's the difference in grain? Tbh, I've always bought ball ammo and at the same time got whatever was cheaper. Lol

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Post by **son of liberty** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:03 pm

86 slo-vo wrote:My shield runs perfect on 124g +p SB gold dots, handles them good.

the 124 gold dot is my bullet of choice

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:30 pm

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Post by **Toddstang** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:49 pm

I like the Hornady and what it does to a bowling pin and milk jugs.

Post by **justang1997** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:34 pm

With a 3 inch barrel you need to pick a round that's gonna expand reliably through denim. Not to mention it is winter so heavier clothing is going to need penitrated. Bonded ammo is going to retain weight and penitrate deeper than regular jacketed.
With 3 inch barrel I'd stay +p whatever you do. Gold Dots come in a short barrel version.

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Post by **justang1997** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:35 pm

86 slo-vo wrote:My shield runs perfect on 124g +p SB gold dots, handles them good.

This is my vote

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Post by **jmeister** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:48 pm

Coach wrote:The HST is a new design which is, according to reports, better than the older Hydrashok. I dont buy it. Hydrashok is just fine.

Dunno what you consider new, I've been carrying HST for about 8 yrs now in 9mm & 45ACP

1fastmach1 · Post by **1fastmach1** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:04 pm

jmeister wrote:
Coach wrote:The HST is a new design which is, according to reports, better than the older Hydrashok. I dont buy it. Hydrashok is just fine.
Dunno what you consider new, I've been carrying HST for about 8 yrs now in 9mm & 45ACP

What is your opinion of the HST versus the regular hydroshok?

Post by **Whootsinator** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:10 am

http://www.lightfighter.net/topic/servi ... fense-ammo

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:11 am

Whootsinator wrote:http://www.lightfighter.net/topic/servi ... fense-ammo

gotta sign in to see that topic, it seems.

1fastmach1 · Post by **1fastmach1** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:45 am

I have to login to see it. I'll create an account after work.

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Post by **ChopperDoc** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:23 am

The guy in the video I posted is testing a whole bunch of 9mm rounds to see which is best for 3" barrel. Check out his other vids to see what is performing well and what is not.

Roman · Post by **Roman** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:58 am

You could make it a poll option? FWIW I carry with TAP, Ball, TAP, ball etc.

1fastmach1 · Post by **1fastmach1** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:19 am

ChopperDoc wrote:The guy in the video I posted is testing a whole bunch of 9mm rounds to see which is best for 3" barrel. Check out his other vids to see what is performing well and what is not.

I watched the video you posted. I've actually watched a few of his other videos where he talks about different defense rounds. I'm gonna go today to pick something up. I'm think the critical defense, and hydroshoks. Not sure of grain yet though. Not so sure about the specific differences.

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Post by **justang1997** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:42 am

The heavy grains penitrate deeper due to more inertia and also due to less velocity and slower mushrooming.

The lighter grains are faster and react more violently and sometimes penitrate either less or wayyy less due to over expansion.

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Post by **jmeister** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:32 pm

1fastmach1 wrote: What is your opinion of the HST versus the regular hydroshok?

never tried hyroshoks

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:51 pm

justang1997 wrote:The heavy grains penitrate deeper due to more inertia and also due to less velocity and slower mushrooming.

The lighter grains are faster and react more violently and sometimes penitrate either less or wayyy less due to over expansion.

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That generalization just is not true anymore. The video I posted is a perfect example of this. modern bullet tech is making things better all the time and there are some really good 115g bullets that are performing very well out of a 3" gun.

Hydrashocks typically do okay, but have never been great in smaller guns. Lots of other options with newer technology.

Post by **justang1997** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:04 pm

I suppose the video is being interpreted differently by me. The rounds he tested all were deeper than the 12 inch fbi minimum but only barely so. One was right on the line. I look for rounds that are just under the 18 inch maximum. And of course it is a pretty broad general statement but it is true that if you shoot a round out of a short barrel that isn't designed for it it will over penitrate and not expand.

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Post by **RecoilSensitive** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:04 am

Federal HST 147 Grain FTMFW

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