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Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:54 am
by Toecutter1978
https://sofrep.com/95354/want-surplus-1 ... my-chance/

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Want a surplus 1911 pistol from the U.S. Army? Here is your chance

Frumentarius | 12.06.2017 3 Comments

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The U.S. Army is planning to transfer up to 10,000 surplus 1911 pistols to the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) as early as 2018, according to the Army Times.  The .45 caliber pistols would then be put up for sale to civilians who qualify to purchase them from CMP.  The move comes as part of the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which would order the sale of the handguns, and which only awaits the approval of President Trump to come into effect.

The Army replaced the 1911 back in 1986 with the M9 Beretta 9mm pistol, according to Army Times.  The Beretta is now in the process of being replaced by the Sig Sauer P320 “Modular Handgun System,” which will be known as the M17 (full size) and M18 (compact) in U.S. Army nomenclature.



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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:55 am
by Toecutter1978
Oh yeah! Even if I am not able to get one of these, prices should come down overall so us broke folks have a chance.

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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:59 am
by ssracer
Wouldn’t bet on it. And the process for getting one, you basically have to go through two NICS checks. I’d love to have an old 1911 but I’m not gonna drop $1K on a used and abused rack grade pistol.


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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:03 am
by Toecutter1978
Also hope the M9 goes up for sale. It would be sweet to own a mil one.

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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:04 am
by WLJ
Everything I'm reading suggests that these are ragged the F out.
It came from the internet so take that info for what you paid for it.

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:53 pm
by Toecutter1978
WLJ wrote:Everything I'm reading suggests that these are ragged the F out.
It came from the internet so take that info for what you paid for it.
I imagine these are only good for display purpose only. Still would be neat to own one, if the price is right.

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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:03 pm
by kokopelli
Prices will be $800-$1,000 for ‘rack grade’ pistols. The director of the CMP wanted to ‘price them out of the hands of anyone who would do something nefarious with them’.

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:05 pm
by WLJ
kokopelli wrote:Prices will be $800-$1,000 for ‘rack grade’ pistols. The director of the CMP wanted to ‘price them out of the hands of anyone who would do something nefarious with them’.
Yeah, because gang bangers get guns from the CMP :roll:

Are they going to grind off the bayonet lugs? :llama:

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:13 pm
by Dave1965
Save your money, you can already get one in better shape than rack grade for 12 to 1500. Much better.

The only thing is that it may not be COLT marked. CMP will get some of everything, COLT, USS and SINGER are the better ones but they will cull them out and price them waaaaaaay up there. Most will probably be remington rand or ithaca (which is ok, but pretty common around).

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:45 pm
by Toddstang
I'll pass. Better collectors for less can be found.

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:06 pm
by ssracer
Dave1965 wrote:Save your money, you can already get one in better shape than rack grade for 12 to 1500. Much better.

The only thing is that it may not be COLT marked. CMP will get some of everything, COLT, USS and SINGER are the better ones but they will cull them out and price them waaaaaaay up there. Most will probably be remington rand or ithaca (which is ok, but pretty common around).
They’ve already said any rare types will be pulled out and sent to their auctions


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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:03 am
by Jff24Gordn
I think the 2 background checks is absurd. They won’t let me use my C&R FFL for it. Do they realize I can buy an out of state machine gun that is C&R and fill out the paperwork and once it gets stamped, it’s mailed directly to my house. But I guess a 1911 is more dangerous than a Browning 1917 with 250 round belts.

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:47 pm
by WLJ
CMP Emails List of Requirements for 1911 Purchase
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... -purchase/

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:55 pm
by Toecutter1978
Well one day I shall own one.

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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:19 am
by WLJ
CMP Issues Clarification on 1911 Purchase Requirements
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... uirements/

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:33 am
by Toddstang
Stool sample now required.

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:18 am
by son of liberty
Toddstang wrote:Stool sample now required.
Not always required, but i always give one.

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:53 pm
by Toecutter1978
https://www.tactical-life.com/news/cmp- ... -ordering/

Pricing is up. Oh man!

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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:01 pm
by PDM
In the comments:

Sounds like they're pricing them to make damn sure the ones that used them won't get one!

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:04 pm
by WLJ
What? No Full Semi Autos?

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 11:25 am
by kokopelli
Did Lotus take over CMP pricing?

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 2:05 pm
by Toddstang
kokopelli wrote:Did Lotus take over CMP pricing?
LMAO!

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 4:20 pm
by Toecutter1978
Toddstang wrote:
kokopelli wrote:Did Lotus take over CMP pricing?
LMAO!
So true. It would be nice to own one, but that's about it, a nice thought.

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Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:05 pm
by Mexican Kerry
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This pic was in the first link for the CMP. I seriously doubt any of the pistols will be in this condition (maybe the odd auction grade piece) so I wouldn't get too upset about missing out on this program. They aren't blowing out mint un-issued pistols in a lottery you won't win. There are lots of GI pistols out there if you want one. The prices they list in the second link actually sound ok for the stated condition ranges given what values are these days, but you also have to remember these should really only be purchased as a conversation piece or as a collectible you don't plan on using (much).

If you just want a WW2 style shooter, buy a Springfield GI or a Rock Island or an Auto Ordnance. They look and feel the same, and are reasonable facsimiles of the old A1's, and you don't have to worry so much about if it breaks.

Granted there is an appeal to having the genuine article....

Just my 2 cents and its worth exactly that. I'm not involved with the sorting and grading of the pistols they receive, maybe I'm wrong and they have a motherlode of really nice stuff to sell.

Re: Surplus 1911s going on sale!!

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:09 pm
by Mexican Kerry
If they have one of these up though, buy it. Don't ask questions, just buy it. Then look them up and thank me. Not likely, but one can dream.....

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