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06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:49 am
by Rem700
Yesterday my wife called and said the truck was making a loud squeaking noise at start up. She was at a store and started it and went to back out and the noise happened. Said she smelled some burning (like clutch or brakes). I went and looked at it and did not visually see anything wrong. Belt was tight and we couldn't re-create the noise. However the A/C was no longer cold at that point. Im thinking A/C compressor or compressor clutch. Truck still drives fine, just no cold air. Already got with johnny on a price for compressor parts but just wondering if anyone has any experience with this or advice. I can part swap with the best of em but im not the greatest at diagnosing problems, esp with limited time to do it. What say you?

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:54 am
by Niceguy
Is the clutch actually cycling in and out?Or not cycling on at all?

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:09 pm
by Toddstang
Niceguy wrote:Is the clutch actually cycling in and out?Or not cycling on at all?
This. When it locks up it more than likely burn the belt .

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:22 pm
by Marcus
Toddstang wrote:
Niceguy wrote:Is the clutch actually cycling in and out?Or not cycling on at all?
This. When it locks up it more than likely burn the belt .
Just had my navigator compressor go out.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:23 pm
by Marcus
Same symptoms. Replace now. I waited until mine locked up. No bueno.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:38 pm
by Rem700
Niceguy wrote:Is the clutch actually cycling in and out?Or not cycling on at all?
That is what i am going to check tonight.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:39 pm
by Rem700
Marcus wrote:Same symptoms. Replace now. I waited until mine locked up. No bueno.
Whole compressor or just the clutch?

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:40 pm
by Marcus
Rem700 wrote:
Marcus wrote:Same symptoms. Replace now. I waited until mine locked up. No bueno.
Whole compressor or just the clutch?
I tried the clutch first. No go. Ended up replacing the whole compressor

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:40 pm
by Rem700
Also can i use the recharge kits to recharge the system if i have to dissemble? I have recharged systems before but never after a repair where the system was opened.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:41 pm
by Rem700
Marcus wrote:
Rem700 wrote:
Marcus wrote:Same symptoms. Replace now. I waited until mine locked up. No bueno.
Whole compressor or just the clutch?
I tried the clutch first. No go. Ended up replacing the whole compressor
Copy that. I may just bite the bullet and do that instead of trying to trouble shoot it part by part.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:41 pm
by Niceguy
Rem700 wrote:Also can i use the recharge kits to recharge the system if i have to dissemble? I have recharged systems before but never after a repair where the system was opened.
If highly recommend at least vacuuming it down first at the very least.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:43 pm
by Rem700
Niceguy wrote:
Rem700 wrote:Also can i use the recharge kits to recharge the system if i have to dissemble? I have recharged systems before but never after a repair where the system was opened.
If highly recommend at least vacuuming it down first at the very least.
English please? lol

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:49 pm
by Rem700
Rem700 wrote:
Niceguy wrote:
Rem700 wrote:Also can i use the recharge kits to recharge the system if i have to dissemble? I have recharged systems before but never after a repair where the system was opened.
If highly recommend at least vacuuming it down first at the very least.
English please? lol
Nevermind lol. I dont have a vacuum system anyway. Wonder if auto zone or advanced does those for tool rental? Or does ProCroatian have one? I know he advertised A/C work a while back?

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:04 pm
by Niceguy
Rem700 wrote:
Rem700 wrote:
Niceguy wrote:
Rem700 wrote:Also can i use the recharge kits to recharge the system if i have to dissemble? I have recharged systems before but never after a repair where the system was opened.
If highly recommend at least vacuuming it down first at the very least.
English please? lol
Nevermind lol. I dont have a vacuum system anyway. Wonder if auto zone or advanced does those for tool rental? Or does ProCroatian have one? I know he advertised A/C work a while back?
He has a whole AC reclaimer machine. Definitely the way to go. It will make all your pressures right. You have a high side and a low side and just using those "dump" hoses screws those pressures up. Maybe do the work and see if he will vacuum and charge it.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:16 pm
by Rem700
Will do. I'm going to mess with it some tonight and will probably hit you up for parts in the next few days. Gonna see if I can borrow my moms vehicle for a few days.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:13 pm
by Rem700
Would it hurt anything to swap the compressor and then drive it to Pro-Cro's? Leave the A/C off i would guess?

If im thinking right its just another pulley when not engaged......

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:27 pm
by PDM
Rem700 wrote:Also can i use the recharge kits to recharge the system if i have to dissemble? I have recharged systems before but never after a repair where the system was opened.
You "can" but lots of reasons not to. Mainly, damage and the cooling performance will not be what it should

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:04 pm
by Rem700
PDM wrote:
Rem700 wrote:Also can i use the recharge kits to recharge the system if i have to dissemble? I have recharged systems before but never after a repair where the system was opened.
You "can" but lots of reasons not to. Mainly, damage and the cooling performance will not be what it should
Copy that.....now answer my next question! Lol

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:08 pm
by Rem700
Anyone want to text or PM me ProCro's #?

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:36 pm
by Gunsmokin
Check your text

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:12 pm
by PDM
Rem700 wrote:Would it hurt anything to swap the compressor and then drive it to Pro-Cro's? Leave the A/C off i would guess?

If im thinking right its just another pulley when not engaged......
Wouldn't hurt anything. You might want him to put a new dryer in it though

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:30 pm
by Niceguy
PDM wrote:
Rem700 wrote:Would it hurt anything to swap the compressor and then drive it to Pro-Cro's? Leave the A/C off i would guess?

If im thinking right its just another pulley when not engaged......
Wouldn't hurt anything. You might want him to put a new dryer in it though
And orifice tube.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:07 pm
by Rem700
Niceguy wrote:
PDM wrote:
Rem700 wrote:Would it hurt anything to swap the compressor and then drive it to Pro-Cro's? Leave the A/C off i would guess?

If im thinking right its just another pulley when not engaged......
Wouldn't hurt anything. You might want him to put a new dryer in it though
And orifice tube.
Does that kit you have have all those parts? If so I'll go with that.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:17 pm
by son of liberty
Change compressor, change the O ring seals in the parts that you can get to easy, while your at it. Get new belt, and have it charged by someone who can vaccume it down.

Re: 06 Explorer A/C Issues

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:57 pm
by ProCroation
I took care of him today. Nice and cold now.