Question about job applications
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Question about job applications
What does it mean when asked if you are a "armed forces service medal veteran" or a "other protected veteran" or a "recently separated veteran". Also "veteran" is an option. I assume one could be all of the above so which would you choose. And does one have preference over the other? I also noticed these questions when applying for admission to college this year.
Re: Question about job applications
Federal govt and its definitions of veterans...yes different classes and sometimes preferences. For fed jobs, you get so many extra points for different preferences. This bumps you higher on list for selection.
Federal Veteran Category Definitions
Disabled Veteran
This term means (A) a veteran of the U.S. military, ground, naval or air service who is entitled to compensation (or who but for the receipt of military retired pay would be entitled to compensation) under the laws administered by the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, or (B) a person who was discharged or released from active duty because of a service-connected disability.
Armed Forces Service Medal Veteran
This term means any veteran who, while serving on active duty in the U.S. military, ground, naval, or air service, participated in a United States military operation for which an Armed Forces service medal was awarded pursuant to Executive Order No. 12985. Note: With respect to this category, contractors may want to consider requiring veterans who self-identify as an "Armed Forces Service Medal Veteran" to provide a copy of their DD Form 214 otherwise known as their Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty.
Recently Separated Veteran
This term means any veteran during the three-year period beginning on the date of such veteran's discharge or release from active duty in the U.S. military, ground, naval, or air service.
Other Protected Veteran
This term means a veteran who served on active duty in the U.S. military, ground, naval, or air service during a war or in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge has been authorized, under the laws administered by the Department of Defense.
A complete list of campaigns can be viewed at: http://www.opm.gov/staffingportal/vgmedal2.asp
Federal Veteran Category Definitions
Disabled Veteran
This term means (A) a veteran of the U.S. military, ground, naval or air service who is entitled to compensation (or who but for the receipt of military retired pay would be entitled to compensation) under the laws administered by the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, or (B) a person who was discharged or released from active duty because of a service-connected disability.
Armed Forces Service Medal Veteran
This term means any veteran who, while serving on active duty in the U.S. military, ground, naval, or air service, participated in a United States military operation for which an Armed Forces service medal was awarded pursuant to Executive Order No. 12985. Note: With respect to this category, contractors may want to consider requiring veterans who self-identify as an "Armed Forces Service Medal Veteran" to provide a copy of their DD Form 214 otherwise known as their Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty.
Recently Separated Veteran
This term means any veteran during the three-year period beginning on the date of such veteran's discharge or release from active duty in the U.S. military, ground, naval, or air service.
Other Protected Veteran
This term means a veteran who served on active duty in the U.S. military, ground, naval, or air service during a war or in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge has been authorized, under the laws administered by the Department of Defense.
A complete list of campaigns can be viewed at: http://www.opm.gov/staffingportal/vgmedal2.asp
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Re: Question about job applications
so is other protected veteran ranking above service medal veteran? thanks dave
Re: Question about job applications
Its not so easy sometimes and you need to carefully select which one you claim to be because they will usually ask for proof. Bottom line is the more points the better your application rises to the top. I have known many 10 point preference people to hold up a selection list because they were preferred but not able to do the job.
Found this that sort of explains it...
Eligibility Criteria
To be entitled to veteran’s preference, you must meet the eligibility requirements in section 2108 of Title 5, United States Code. This means that the veteran received an honorable or general discharge.
Military retirees at the rank of major, lieutenant commander, or higher are not eligible for preference unless they are disabled veterans.
Guard and Reserve active duty for training purposes does not qualify
for preference.
When applying for Federal jobs, eligible veterans should claim preference on their resumes. Applicants claiming 10-point preference must complete form SF-15, Application for 10-point Veteran’s Preference.
Recent Change in Requirements for Eligibility ---The Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1998 (Public Law 105-
85) dated 18 Nov 1997 has modified the existing requirements for Veteran’s Preference to extend Veteran’s Preference to anyone serving on active duty between 2 Aug 1990 and 2 Jan 1992. This same Act also extended some eligibility to those involved in Operation Joint Endeavor and Operation Joint Guard. If you believe
any of these changes affect you, please contact your Servicing Human Resources Office. There are specific conditions, which apply to each portion of the Law.
Veterans Preference Eligibility
5-Points Veterans Preference Eligibility--
You are entitled to 5 point veterans preference if your service was:
• During a war including December 7, 1941 through July 1, 1955.
• For more than 180 consecutive days, other than for training,
any part of which occurred after January 31, 1955, and before
October 15, 1976.
• During the Gulf War from August 2, 1990, through January 2,
1992 (See Note).
• In a campaign or expedition for which a campaign medal has been authorized. Any Armed Forces Expeditionary medal or campaign badge, including El Salvador, Lebanon, Grenada, Panama, Somalia, Southwest Asia, Bosnia, Yugoslavia, and Haiti, qualifies for preference (See Note).
Note: A campaign medal holder or Gulf War veteran who originally enlisted after September 7, 1980, (or began active duty on or after October 14, 1982, and has not previously completed 24 months of continuous active duty) must have served continuously for 24 months active duty, (other than active duty for training) or the full period
called or ordered to active duty (other than active duty for training). The 24 month service requirement does not apply to 10-point preference eligible veterans separated for disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty, or to veterans separated for hardship or other reasons under 10 U.S.C. 1171 or 1173.
5-Points Veterans Preference Documentation
If you are claiming 5 point veteran preference, you will be granted 5 point tentative veteran preference for referral purposes. If you are selected for a position, you must provide copies of your DD-214(s) by the closing date on the vacancy announcement.
0-Points Veterans Preference Eligibility--
You are entitled to 10 point veteran preference if one of the following
applies:
• 10-Point Disability: You are entitled to 10 point veterans'
preference if you are a former member of the Armed Forces
who was separated under honorable conditions and have a
service-connected disability that is 10 percent or less, but the
Veterans Administration has not awarded any compensation.
• 10-Point Compensable: You are entitled to 10 point veterans'
preference if you are a former member of the Armed Forces
who was separated under honorable conditions and have a
service-connected disability that is at least 10 percent, but less
than 30 percent, and you are receiving disability compensation
from the Veterans Administration.
• 10-Point Other: You are entitled to 10 point veterans
preference because you are (a) the spouse or mother of a
veteran occupationally disabled because of service-connected
disability, or (b) the widow/widower or mother of a deceased
wartime veteran.
• 10-Point/30 Percent Compensable - Veteran: You are entitled
to 10 point preference if you have a service connected disability
of 30 percent or more.
10-Points Veterans Preference Documentation
If you are claiming 10 point veteran preference, you must submit form
SF-15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, along with
appropriate documentation. For your convenience, you can print the
SF-15 (PDF - 30KB) from the OPM web site.
Found this that sort of explains it...
Eligibility Criteria
To be entitled to veteran’s preference, you must meet the eligibility requirements in section 2108 of Title 5, United States Code. This means that the veteran received an honorable or general discharge.
Military retirees at the rank of major, lieutenant commander, or higher are not eligible for preference unless they are disabled veterans.
Guard and Reserve active duty for training purposes does not qualify
for preference.
When applying for Federal jobs, eligible veterans should claim preference on their resumes. Applicants claiming 10-point preference must complete form SF-15, Application for 10-point Veteran’s Preference.
Recent Change in Requirements for Eligibility ---The Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1998 (Public Law 105-
85) dated 18 Nov 1997 has modified the existing requirements for Veteran’s Preference to extend Veteran’s Preference to anyone serving on active duty between 2 Aug 1990 and 2 Jan 1992. This same Act also extended some eligibility to those involved in Operation Joint Endeavor and Operation Joint Guard. If you believe
any of these changes affect you, please contact your Servicing Human Resources Office. There are specific conditions, which apply to each portion of the Law.
Veterans Preference Eligibility
5-Points Veterans Preference Eligibility--
You are entitled to 5 point veterans preference if your service was:
• During a war including December 7, 1941 through July 1, 1955.
• For more than 180 consecutive days, other than for training,
any part of which occurred after January 31, 1955, and before
October 15, 1976.
• During the Gulf War from August 2, 1990, through January 2,
1992 (See Note).
• In a campaign or expedition for which a campaign medal has been authorized. Any Armed Forces Expeditionary medal or campaign badge, including El Salvador, Lebanon, Grenada, Panama, Somalia, Southwest Asia, Bosnia, Yugoslavia, and Haiti, qualifies for preference (See Note).
Note: A campaign medal holder or Gulf War veteran who originally enlisted after September 7, 1980, (or began active duty on or after October 14, 1982, and has not previously completed 24 months of continuous active duty) must have served continuously for 24 months active duty, (other than active duty for training) or the full period
called or ordered to active duty (other than active duty for training). The 24 month service requirement does not apply to 10-point preference eligible veterans separated for disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty, or to veterans separated for hardship or other reasons under 10 U.S.C. 1171 or 1173.
5-Points Veterans Preference Documentation
If you are claiming 5 point veteran preference, you will be granted 5 point tentative veteran preference for referral purposes. If you are selected for a position, you must provide copies of your DD-214(s) by the closing date on the vacancy announcement.
0-Points Veterans Preference Eligibility--
You are entitled to 10 point veteran preference if one of the following
applies:
• 10-Point Disability: You are entitled to 10 point veterans'
preference if you are a former member of the Armed Forces
who was separated under honorable conditions and have a
service-connected disability that is 10 percent or less, but the
Veterans Administration has not awarded any compensation.
• 10-Point Compensable: You are entitled to 10 point veterans'
preference if you are a former member of the Armed Forces
who was separated under honorable conditions and have a
service-connected disability that is at least 10 percent, but less
than 30 percent, and you are receiving disability compensation
from the Veterans Administration.
• 10-Point Other: You are entitled to 10 point veterans
preference because you are (a) the spouse or mother of a
veteran occupationally disabled because of service-connected
disability, or (b) the widow/widower or mother of a deceased
wartime veteran.
• 10-Point/30 Percent Compensable - Veteran: You are entitled
to 10 point preference if you have a service connected disability
of 30 percent or more.
10-Points Veterans Preference Documentation
If you are claiming 10 point veteran preference, you must submit form
SF-15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference, along with
appropriate documentation. For your convenience, you can print the
SF-15 (PDF - 30KB) from the OPM web site.
Re: Question about job applications
I don't know about the FedGov, but the VFW thinks I'm a WWII veteran and I was born in 1956! It seems that since I was 2.5 years in West Berlin and got the Berlin medal that makes me a WWII vet. Does anyone know if that would give me the "Armed Forces Service Medal Veteran" points?
Thanks!
JIM
Thanks!
JIM
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Re: Question about job applications
If you had Armed Forces Service Medal it would be documented on your dd-214. It wasn't created until 1996 and is awarded for military operations where another campaign medal was not awarded, primarily peacekeeping and prolonged humanitarian operations after 1992.