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no wonder I can't find a job

Post by kokopelli » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:09 pm

according to the counselor at Ky Voc-rehab I've been working with, 80% of employers polled said that they would not hire a veteran, and would hire someone else, even if less qualified, than the veteran.

What the hell?

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Tyler » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:13 pm

I call bullshit
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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Frailer » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:28 pm

Tyler wrote:I call bullshit
Ditto.

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Rem700 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:12 pm

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Dave1965 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:17 pm

Coachf wrote:I hired a captain who flies choppers. 1st year science teacher. Not going to lie, him being a veteran factored into my decision. Factored in that I wanted our students to see a successful man who went from high school to the army, got to goto OCS, flies high dollar equipment, served tours in Iraq, and now is a teacher. In my opinion, employers need to think about the positives a veteran can bring. In this mans case, I gurantee his story and influence on our students will change some for the better.

Wasn't there a program called Troops to Teachers which promoted this??

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Dead-OnSniperService » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:19 pm

Coachf wrote:I hired a captain who flies choppers. 1st year science teacher. Not going to lie, him being a veteran factored into my decision. Factored in that I wanted our students to see a successful man who went from high school to the army, got to goto OCS, flies high dollar equipment, served tours in Iraq, and now is a teacher. In my opinion, employers need to think about the positives a veteran can bring. In this mans case, I gurantee his story and influence on our students will change some for the better.
+1 Coach, my roommate is a combat veteran, went to apply at JCPenny locally, literally stood beside a sign in the store that said how.much their company supported our troops and veterans and was told the job was given to a 17yr old high school girl.....I will never spend a penny with that franchise again
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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Dave1965 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:21 pm

Coachf wrote:
Dave1965 wrote:
Coachf wrote:I hired a captain who flies choppers. 1st year science teacher. Not going to lie, him being a veteran factored into my decision. Factored in that I wanted our students to see a successful man who went from high school to the army, got to goto OCS, flies high dollar equipment, served tours in Iraq, and now is a teacher. In my opinion, employers need to think about the positives a veteran can bring. In this mans case, I gurantee his story and influence on our students will change some for the better.

Wasn't there a program called Troops to Teachers which promoted this??
Yep. Unfortunatly they promote it poorly.

1. Don't cold call
2. Don't be hard to reach when I want to call back
3. Get someone who knows something about education to answer my questions don't just say "he's a great guy"
I was going to retire sometime and become a teacher.

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Jff24Gordn » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:58 pm

Amazon loves Vets. This is the current listing for the new warehouse in Jeffersonville, IN
http://www.amazon.com/gp/jobs/ref=j_sq_ ... &x=25&y=16

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by kokopelli » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:15 pm

Frailer wrote:
Tyler wrote:I call bullshit
Ditto.

that's what I thought, too, but this is her job- to stay on top of what hiring managers, HR people, etc are doing/thinking, down to what color suit and tie to wear to an interview.
She says these polls are very accurate.

Another strike against me is being retired. It doesn't matter that I'm only 41, she said that any resume with 'retired' in it gets thrown in the trash almost 100% of the time.

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Nolan » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:21 pm

kokopelli wrote:
Frailer wrote:
Tyler wrote:I call bullshit
Ditto.

that's what I thought, too, but this is her job- to stay on top of what hiring managers, HR people, etc are doing/thinking, down to what color suit and tie to wear to an interview.
She says these polls are very accurate.

Another strike against me is being retired. It doesn't matter that I'm only 41, she said that any resume with 'retired' in it gets thrown in the trash almost 100% of the time.
Being retired military myself I know the drill--it really sucks when going to the civilian market for a job--good luck
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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by ijonbrown » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:22 pm

Tyler wrote:I call bullshit
I agree. I would hire a vet in a minute. Most managers I know would prefer a vet to a non vet. I think even managers that are not ex military themselves have a hirer level of respect for vets. This article http://www.weknownext.com/workforce/us- ... t-targeted gives some good news about veterans being hired.

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Tyler » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:25 pm

Maybe this lady has some secret knowledge that only pollsters can obtain, but I know that I got my job based solely on being a vet. IIRC, you're looking for something quite a bit higher-paying than I am, so that may have something to do with it.
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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by kokopelli » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:52 pm

Tyler wrote:Maybe this lady has some secret knowledge that only pollsters can obtain, but I know that I got my job based solely on being a vet. IIRC, you're looking for something quite a bit higher-paying than I am, so that may have something to do with it.
I don't know- I've been looking at ~ $10-12 an hour jobs.

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Frailer » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:18 pm

Dave1965 wrote:I was going to retire sometime and become a teacher.
That's what I did.

Great job satisfaction, even if I am working more hours for a fraction of the pay. ;)

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Lorredc » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:19 pm

did you look on USA jobs?

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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by Nolan » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:12 pm

Civil Service has a veteran hiring preference--it is the law
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Re: no wonder I can't find a job

Post by kokopelli » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:12 pm

Lorredc wrote:did you look on USA jobs?

yep. I searched for every opening in Kentucky and there has not been anything I can do- mostly medical jobs listed.

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