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Post by Kadnine » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:30 am

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I was unaware before tonight that blanks retailed so cheap! Are these a good deal? Anyone got a line on something cheaper and/or higher quality? I'm looking to carve my first handle soon.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_ ... ife+blanks

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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Whootsinator » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:50 am

Damascus is a funny beast. I'm sure you know it has typically two steels. To get a good Damascus steel you need to start with two good steels, but ALSO two steels that work well together. Slapping any two awesome steels together and folding them a bunch doesn't necessarily produce a steel that equals the sum of its parts.

I can't offer specifics, I've just read enough to have an incredibly basic (almost trivial) knowledge of knifemaking and different steels.

As far as the specific listed blank, I wouldn't personally purchase it. It's Damascus, but doesn't say what steels it's made from, it's made in Pakistan, and it's sold by some helmet retailer. I have no desire to buy unknown products or support Pakistan, if I can help it.
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Post by Kadnine » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:06 am

Yeah, I hear ya. Thanks. I know just enough to be dangerous. There's supposedly a quality Damascus blank producer in... Arkansas? But his prices are no where near this 20 dollar mark.And I'm on a bit of a budget.

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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Whootsinator » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:29 am

If you're just trying to showcase your handmade scales I guess it doesn't matter much... Just try to go with an American maker.

If you're trying to make a whole package to be proud of and use frequently, I would save up a bit. Or, use a non-Damascus steel. 1095 should be cheaper.

The problem you'll run into is that most blanks are produced cheaply for the DIYer that order out of KNIVES MONTHLY or whatever generic magazine they're perusing. That's not to say quality blanks aren't out there though. Many quality blanks that I've found are unfinished... they would require a grinder, file, or sandpaper and time to finish to the point of only needing a handle.
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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Whootsinator » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:31 am

Here's a small Damascus that would fit your readiness requirements perfectly, but again it is SMALL... small means less expensive though.

http://usaknifemaker.com/kit-knives-bla ... ascus.html

15-n-20 is good stuff, as is the 1095 forge welded to it.
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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Kadnine » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:50 am

Nice! I'm looking to start cheap in order to build up a skill set. Eventually I'd like to grind a few showcase knives outta this guy's steel:

http://www.alphaknifesupply.com/damascus.htm

Till then I'm at the bottom rung of the learning ladder. Thanks again. And answer is yes, I'm starting with carving a handle. Thinking either acrylic G 10 style or something more exotic like ebony or even volcanic stone! Steel is less important at this stage in the game. You've been a big help!

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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Whootsinator » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:01 am

AKS's informational pages are GREAT.

In case you haven't seen them: http://www.alphaknifesupply.com/zdata-information.htm

Don't forget to let us know how your projects come along! ;)
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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Whootsinator » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:14 am

I may have found just what you need. Inexpensive finished knife blanks, only needing handles, made in the USA, and of reportedly decent steel. Don't expect miracles out of the steel, especially since I can't figure out what steel it even is. They should be perfect practice for your handle making.

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/list/Item.aspx/453/1

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http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/2011/11 ... eview.html


Note: A few people say it's 1095 steel, which would be GREAT, but I can't find anything official.
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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Kadnine » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:36 am

Awesome sauce Whoot! Starting with scales, working my way up to building one of these.

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Post by guncrank1 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:41 am

But wire rope can be made into good damacus blanks
Yes I said wire rope , same stuff that is used to hold up bridges.

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Post by guncrank1 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:52 am

But I agree with YGG
Cheap price usually means no carbon and unknown steel , no heat treatment so no edge retention.

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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Dave1965 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:18 am

wire rope= also known as CABLE

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Post by son of liberty » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:23 am

There is only one place to buy steel, from ALDO! http://newjerseysteelbaron.com/

Whoots nailed it.

Look at Scandi blanks, I have never seen a poor quality one yet http://www.thompsonsknives.com/
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Post by guncrank1 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:38 am

Dave1965 wrote:wire rope= also known as CABLE
No I said ROPE not cable.
Specially the material used to hold up bridges and retain cable cars.

Not common cable , like the little safety ties and such

And YES DAVE IT CAN CALLED CABLE :llama:

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Post by guncrank1 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:47 am

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Post by guncrank1 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:48 am

son of liberty wrote:There is only one place to buy steel, from ALDO! http://newjerseysteelbaron.com/

Whoots nailed it.

Look at Scandi blanks, I have never seen a poor quality one yet http://www.thompsonsknives.com/
Ok I guess I buy from wrong places
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Post by BIGC » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:03 am

I can get 3 or 4 different Mora/Frosts of Sweden blade blanks.. I did have one laying here but don't know what I did with the damn thing...
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Post by BIGC » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:04 am

Oh and I am not good with Amazon, don't see where it says they are made, but I am pretty sure that those blanks you are looking at are made in Pakistan/Middle East because I can get the same blanks through my distributor...
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Re: Damascus Knife Blanks

Post by Dave1965 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:36 am

guncrank1 wrote:
Dave1965 wrote:wire rope= also known as CABLE
No I said ROPE not cable.
Specially the material used to hold up bridges and retain cable cars.

Not common cable , like the little safety ties and such

And YES DAVE IT CAN CALLED CABLE :llama:
Ok, we change the bridges we build from

Cable-stayed bridge to wire rope bridge
and cable cars to wire rope cars

:llama:

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Post by guncrank1 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:21 pm

Dave1965 wrote:
guncrank1 wrote:
Dave1965 wrote:wire rope= also known as CABLE
No I said ROPE not cable.
Specially the material used to hold up bridges and retain cable cars.

Not common cable , like the little safety ties and such

And YES DAVE IT CAN CALLED CABLE :llama:
Ok, we change the bridges we build from

Cable-stayed bridge to wire rope bridge
and cable cars to wire rope cars

:llama:
Ok by me :D

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Post by fromkentucky » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:27 pm

So K... You ever get that forge going?
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Post by Kadnine » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:53 pm

Not yet. The problem isn't that it's expensive, or hard to make, it's that I live in the burbs in LaGrange, and I don't think the neighborhood association would be cool with me banging away all hammer and tong! You know of anyone in LaGrange with a nice quiet bit of farm woods where we could maybe tackle this project together?

Think about it, could be fun!

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Post by etownguy » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:33 am

damn you watching that first video spread into 2 hours of watching metal forging videos.. YouTube is the devil I want to go melt aluminum cans now!

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Post by Kadnine » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:14 am

^^^ Same exact thing happened to me!!

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Post by Jason » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:24 pm

Kadnine wrote:Not yet. The problem isn't that it's expensive, or hard to make, it's that I live in the burbs in LaGrange, and I don't think the neighborhood association would be cool with me banging away all hammer and tong! You know of anyone in LaGrange with a nice quiet bit of farm woods where we could maybe tackle this project together?

Think about it, could be fun!

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