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Post by JustShootIt » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:04 pm

Files are the devil
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by guncrank1 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:05 pm

Chain saw blades , lawn mover blades and axes are not as hard as knife blades.


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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by justang1997 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:06 pm

Yes they are
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Post by guncrank1 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:07 pm

Wow I guess all that time I spent heat treating parts and then using abrasives
When I could have just used a file


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Post by guncrank1 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:07 pm

justang1997 wrote:Yes they are
No


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Post by ChopperDoc » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:14 pm

JustShootIt wrote:Files are the devil

I thought Vicki Vallencourt was the devil...
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by justang1997 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:20 pm

From Wetterlings: "After grinding, hardening and tempering, the Wetterling axes keep a Rockwell hardness of 57-58."

From Gerber: "Gerber introduced the LMF II in 2005 after releasing the prototype in 2004. With a 3/16 inch thick 12C27 stainless steel blade that carries a Rockwell Hardness of 58 and features a blackened, no glare finish, the LMF II is just about as popular as the original was back in its day."
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by justang1997 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:22 pm

I guess a Gerber LMF II aint shit cuz its softer than a file.
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by guncrank1 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:27 pm

justang1997 wrote:I guess a Gerber LMF II aint shit cuz its softer than a file.
Yes it is

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Post by fromkentucky » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:34 pm

ChopperDoc wrote:I thought Vicki Vallencourt was the devil...
*Debil :D
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by Niceguy » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:36 pm

ChopperDoc wrote:
JustShootIt wrote:Files are the devil

I thought Vicki Vallencourt was the devil...
No, she would be one of the sexiest chicks on earth! Maybe the devil now that I think about it...haha

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Post by fromkentucky » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:37 pm

Wetterling axes are heat treated VERY differently from chainsaw and lawnmower blades. Wetterlings are usually around RC-58, whereas my Fiskars X7 is closer to RC-55, to make honing easier.

Lawnmower blades, like machetes, are much softer than knives as a matter of safety since they're under much greater strain:
All John Deere blades have a Rockwell Hardness of 40-C to 45-C. Hardness below 40-C results in a surface that is too soft. Hardness over 45-C makes the blade too brittle.
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Post by fromkentucky » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:43 pm

Chainsaw teeth are usually in the mid-60s (63-68), hence why carbide and diamond sharpeners are needed.
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by justang1997 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:48 pm

fromkentucky wrote:Wetterling axes are heat treated VERY differently from chainsaw and lawnmower blades. Wetterlings are usually around RC-58, whereas my Fiskars X7 is closer to RC-55, to make honing easier.

Lawnmower blades, like machetes, are much softer than knives as a matter of safety since they're under much greater strain:
All John Deere blades have a Rockwell Hardness of 40-C to 45-C. Hardness below 40-C results in a surface that is too soft. Hardness over 45-C makes the blade too brittle.
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You will notice on post 23 where I said between 45 and 58 hardness for mower blades chain saw blades and axes. I didn't bother mentioning extremes in either direction.
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by fromkentucky » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:53 pm

justang1997 wrote:You will notice on post 23 where I said between 45 and 58 hardness for mower blades chain saw blades and axes. I didn't bother mentioning extremes in either direction.
Yeah, but you and I both know that's intentionally vague for the purposes of making it seem like lawnmower blades, knives, files and chainsaw teeth are all more or less of equal hardness when that quite obviously isn't the case.
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by justang1997 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:47 pm

Lmao. No it isn't vague at all. I posted a range of 13 points on the rc scale. Some mower blades go down to 40. Some chainsaw teeth are in the mid 60's. Metal files fall in a range between 60-65. Saying a knife has to be 60-65 to be any good is dumb.
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Post by Vividia » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:50 pm

I am sorry but I just HAVE to chime in here...

I find the testosterone enriched discussion of relative hardness mildly amusing.

Carry on.....
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by justang1997 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:00 pm

I love schoolyard style arguments. Hopefully I'm making no one mad. I'm far far from an expert. But I'm damn handy with a bastard file.
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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by guncrank1 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:18 pm

justang1997 wrote:Lmao. No it isn't vague at all. I posted a range of 13 points on the rc scale. Some mower blades go down to 40. Some chainsaw teeth are in the mid 60's. Metal files fall in a range between 60-65. Saying a knife has to be 60-65 to be any good is dumb.

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Re: I tried to polish a turd.

Post by Marcus » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:05 pm

Vividia wrote:I am sorry but I just HAVE to chime in here...

I find the testosterone enriched discussion of relative hardness mildly amusing.

Carry on.....
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Post by guncrank1 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:20 pm

Marcus wrote:
Vividia wrote:I am sorry but I just HAVE to chime in here...

I find the testosterone enriched discussion of relative hardness mildly amusing.

Carry on.....
Best post in this thread.
Agreed


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