NFA AR-15 Guide

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NFA AR-15 Guide

Post by SpyderArms » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:10 pm

Thought I would post this here to help answer some questions everyone has.

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Re: NFA AR-15 Guide

Post by Dave1965 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:56 am

Pistol lower defined as what?

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Post by SpyderArms » Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:35 pm

Dave1965 wrote:Pistol lower defined as what?
A Pistol lower starts out as a receiver then it's made into a pistol. It can be made from the factory like that or a person can make it that way. But once the receiver is made into a pistol it can be made into a rifle and converted back to pistol. But if a receiver is made into a rifle it can NOT be made into a pistol. So whatever a receiver is made into first is what it stays.
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Post by guncrank1 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:16 pm

Come on Spydie -there are no pistol lowers only lowers-
The classification of pistol is only on final manufacturing into a handgun.

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Post by Toddstang » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:25 pm

Great info. Thanks for posting.

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Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:29 pm

guncrank1 wrote:Come on Spydie -there are no pistol lowers only lowers-
The classification of pistol is only on final manufacturing into a handgun.
What about the rock river ar that are sold and marked pistol? That's a pistol lower right?

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Post by Whootsinator » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:32 pm

1fastmach1 wrote:
guncrank1 wrote:Come on Spydie -there are no pistol lowers only lowers-
The classification of pistol is only on final manufacturing into a handgun.
What about the rock river ar that are sold and marked pistol? That's a pistol lower right?
Contact Rock River. I don't believe engraving 'pistol' on the lower has any legal bearing by itself. Check to see what the paperwork says.
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Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:35 pm

Whootsinator wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:
guncrank1 wrote:Come on Spydie -there are no pistol lowers only lowers-
The classification of pistol is only on final manufacturing into a handgun.
What about the rock river ar that are sold and marked pistol? That's a pistol lower right?
Contact Rock River. I don't believe engraving 'pistol' on the lower has any legal bearing by itself. Check to see what the paperwork says.
Would it be legal to put a 16 upper and a stock on one of said lowers from rock river marked pistol?

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Post by guncrank1 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:57 pm

1fastmach1 wrote:
Whootsinator wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:
guncrank1 wrote:Come on Spydie -there are no pistol lowers only lowers-
The classification of pistol is only on final manufacturing into a handgun.
What about the rock river ar that are sold and marked pistol? That's a pistol lower right?
Contact Rock River. I don't believe engraving 'pistol' on the lower has any legal bearing by itself. Check to see what the paperwork says.
Would it be legal to put a 16 upper and a stock on one of said lowers from rock river marked pistol?

The only determining factor on what a lower is the final manufacturing item.
ie the Rock River AR pistol-it is manufactored as a handgun.
It can be engraved crockpot or "a firearm that was designed to be fired by a single hand held grip at ninty degrees to the bore".
The lower it self is still a lower.

And since the handgun can be made into a rifle, no matter what is engraved on it, it is legal by fed and state law legal.

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Post by SpyderArms » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:02 pm

guncrank1 wrote:Come on Spydie -there are no pistol lowers only lowers-
The classification of pistol is only on final manufacturing into a handgun.
That's what I said. A pistol lower starts as a reciever the gets made into a pistol. There are lots of pistol lowers. If I make a pistol and sell it. The guy who buys it takes the upper off and sells it. It's a pistol lower.

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Post by son of liberty » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:51 pm

guncrank1 wrote:Come on Spydie -there are no pistol lowers only lowers-
The classification of pistol is only on final manufacturing into a handgun.
I have doublestar pistol market lowers , but i think most of that type marking was done during the dark ages of knowledge.

For legality , I build all my lowers with pistol barrels and buffer tubes before I take them back apart and build rifles.
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Post by SpyderArms » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:57 pm

son of liberty wrote:
guncrank1 wrote:Come on Spydie -there are no pistol lowers only lowers-
The classification of pistol is only on final manufacturing into a handgun.
I have doublestar pistol market lowers , but i think most of that type marking was done during the dark ages of knowledge.

For legality , I build all my lowers with pistol barrels and buffer tubes before I take them back apart and build rifles.
In my opinion that's the only way to do it. Gives you so many more options in the long run.

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