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Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:29 pm
by Toecutter1978
So the suppressor bug has finally landed. With my obsession of using what I have on hand, I decided to go as inexpensive as possible. So a form 1 maglight is what I'm thinking. I understand that a one size fits all isn't as sweet as one designed specifically for a certain caliber, but I don't see the budget getting larger for another in the near future. I will be doing a wildcat trust so adding down the line will be an option.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:34 pm
by Dave1965
if you need the adaptor ends for the maglight body, let me know

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:57 pm
by iron369
Good times. I have 2 form 1 cans and 2 more waiting on stamps. Once I got involved with them, they became a lot of fun. It's difficult for me since I don't have the ability to fire a few rounds, make minor adjustments, fire a few more rounds and so on since I live in Louisville. Good luck with your build.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:58 pm
by Toecutter1978
Thanks! I need to calm down though, I have two hosts ready for a can and both are 22s. A D cell tube set up for 45 might run into issues with 22?? I need to do more research before I go forward. I don't want to put the cart before the horse like I normally do, oh wait.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:36 pm
by Niceguy
I've shot my Octane 45 can on one of my .22's just to see. It was louder than my .22 cans, but still not bad.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:06 pm
by Dustin
Here is a good place to get parts. I have been looking at building a TI can from here.

http://sdtacticalarms.com/Hardware_c_8.html

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:34 pm
by Toecutter1978
http://www.jstactical.com/JForm-D-SS-Complete_p_15.html


Anybody have any personal experience with these? Everyplace I see these talked about they are highly spoken of. They take the headache out of forming the plugs apparently.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:35 pm
by Toecutter1978
Dustin wrote:Here is a good place to get parts. I have been looking at building a TI can from here.

http://sdtacticalarms.com/Hardware_c_8.html

Niceguy and a few others are telling me to save up some more pennies and but a ti tube from them. Thinking a 5.6 D

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:36 pm
by Tyler
Best place for parts is Diversified Machine, but they are constantly out of stock.

Check out http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_6/55_.html. This is a great source of info, as well as http://form1suppressor.boards.net. Not to take away from this forum, but there is quite a bit of knowledge on those forums regarding Form 1 cans.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:04 pm
by jmeister
ballscutoff1978 wrote:http://www.jstactical.com/JForm-D-SS-Complete_p_15.html


Anybody have any personal experience with these? Everyplace I see these talked about they are highly spoken of. They take the headache out of forming the plugs apparently.
These are supposed to be really nice, preformed and way less. http://www.badgerridgeind.com/store/p28 ... 21%21.html

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:05 pm
by Toddstang
Great info. I might look into building one of these myself.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:45 pm
by iron369
jmeister wrote:
ballscutoff1978 wrote:http://www.jstactical.com/JForm-D-SS-Complete_p_15.html


Anybody have any personal experience with these? Everyplace I see these talked about they are highly spoken of. They take the headache out of forming the plugs apparently.
These are supposed to be really nice, preformed and way less. http://www.badgerridgeind.com/store/p28 ... 21%21.html
Most guys will tell you that if you plan to make one or two form 1 suppressors, the Badger Ridge freeze plugs is the way to go. Especially with the Ti tube. It's a slip in fit. They are center marked really deep. If you think that you may be into building a few of these suppressors, buy the js tactical tool and form your own. Formed steel ones are a couple dollars apiece. The fp's from Napa are $.68 a piece.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:48 pm
by ssracer
ShelbyGoat has built a couple of cans I believe

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:49 pm
by Gunsmokin
So, the baffles in these home made suppressors are made from engine freeze plugs you press into a cone shape with a press tool/die thingy? Is that what I'm seeing? Pretty cool.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:51 pm
by iron369
Gunsmokin wrote:So, the baffles in these home made suppressors are made from engine freeze plugs you press into a cone shape with a press tool/die thingy? Is that what I'm seeing? Pretty cool.
That's exactly what they are.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:54 pm
by Gunsmokin
Might have to give this a whirl!

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:12 pm
by Toecutter1978
Gunsmokin wrote:Might have to give this a whirl!

Well, it would make it more cost effective to go in on a larger solvent trap buy ;-)

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:15 pm
by Toecutter1978
To clean these, just soak in a sonic cleaner, you don't try punching out plugs correct?

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:53 pm
by PDM
Pretty sure I've got a box of freeze plugs and an old mag light somewhere. Hmmm

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:44 pm
by Dave1965
ballscutoff1978 wrote:
Gunsmokin wrote:Might have to give this a whirl!

Well, it would make it more cost effective to go in on a larger solvent trap buy ;-)

yes I already have those solvent traps on hand...freeze plugs are what they use for baffles in conversion. Just drilling the center hole is key

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:03 pm
by iron369
Dave1965 wrote:
ballscutoff1978 wrote:
Gunsmokin wrote:Might have to give this a whirl!

Well, it would make it more cost effective to go in on a larger solvent trap buy ;-)

yes I already have those solvent traps on hand...freeze plugs are what they use for baffles in conversion. Just drilling the center hole is key
Don't drill any holes until you get an approved tax stamp. Once the holes are drilled, you have suppressor parts which need a stamp. Before drilling, you possess solvent trap parts. Big difference apparently.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:07 pm
by Dave1965
iron369 wrote:
Dave1965 wrote:
ballscutoff1978 wrote:
Gunsmokin wrote:Might have to give this a whirl!

Well, it would make it more cost effective to go in on a larger solvent trap buy ;-)

yes I already have those solvent traps on hand...freeze plugs are what they use for baffles in conversion. Just drilling the center hole is key
Don't drill any holes until you get an approved tax stamp. Once the holes are drilled, you have suppressor parts which need a stamp. Before drilling, you possess solvent trap parts. Big difference apparently.

absolutely right, until there are holes, it is just freeze plugs.

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:48 pm
by guncrank1
Built a few myself, I have no need for kits

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:25 am
by Toecutter1978
I need ideas on trust names. At first I was thinking something that would guarantee that the kids would defiantly remember I had a warped sense of humor. However this is something serious, but we hey it's my trust so whatever. Also, serial numbers, it can be anything correct? As in #PEN15 or something like #4567-1234

Re: Get my feet wet

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:28 am
by Toecutter1978
The name has to be stamped on the tubes so that does have an impact on the name.