Recent shootings in France

Post by **WLJ** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:47 am

France shooting: Four die in Toulouse Jewish school attack
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17426313

France paratroop killings spur ban on off-base uniforms
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17397354

Post by **Ulwembu** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:16 am

Not much in the news about it on this side of the pond... I'll dig into it to see if I can find further info. Probably going to badly influence our gunlaws in the future... AGAIN!

Post by **Ulwembu** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:22 am

Some info I found:

It's a father of 30 and his two kids (3 and 6) and a third child. A 17 year old got badly injured. All attacks, including the ones on the millitary guys earlier this month were done with .45 caliber handguns. At least in one case of the millitary guys, a scooter was used. Te shooter was standing across the street and shot two handguns towards a group of waiting parents with children.

Post by **kyswede** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:32 am

I cannot imagine what kind of hatred would justify killing children.

Post by **Ulwembu** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:39 pm

Same here KYSwede... Europe is becoming a messed up part of the world...

Post by **WLJ** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:43 pm

Well considering that the first two shootings were aimed at a paratrooper regiment that came back from Afghanistan and this latest was at a Jewish school, well... do the math who you think is doing this. Just seems to fit a pattern.

Post by **scorpionmain** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:46 pm

I would think the proper response to the military members being shot would be to let them be armed. Allow them to carry the weapons full time like the Israelis do. Not take off your uniform and hide.

Post by **WLJ** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:11 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17473207

Gunman dead as French siege ends

A police siege in the French city of Toulouse has ended with a man suspected of killing seven people now dead, the French interior minister has said.

Police stormed the flat where Mohammed Merah was holed up at 09:30 GMT, after a siege that had lasted 32 hours.

Merah fired at officers and was found dead after jumping from a window.

The self-confessed al-Qaeda militant was suspected of killing four people outside a Jewish school and three soldiers in three separate attacks.

Merah, 23, said he was acting to "avenge Palestinian children" and protest against French military interventions overseas.

Officers wounded

Interior Minister Claude Gueant said officers had thrown grenades and entered by the door and windows of the flat.

After surveying the scene and finding no sign of the suspect, they proceeded to the bathroom, moving slowly as they were wary of booby-traps.

When officers tried to find out if there was anyone in the bathroom, the suspect came out firing several weapons.

Mr Gueant said the suspect was "shooting very violently. The bursts of gunfire were frequent and hard".

Claude Gueant: "Merah jumped through a window while shooting"

Merah then jumped from a window, continuing to fire. He was found dead on the ground.

Two officers were reported wounded in the final assault.

Mr Gueant said: "A RAID [special police] officer who is used to this kind of thing told me that he had never seen such a violent assault."

Earlier Mr Gueant had said it was unclear whether Merah was still alive, because there had been no contact overnight.

He had said the object had been to take Merah alive.

French citizen of Algerian extraction, aged 23
Has criminal record in France for non-terrorist crimes
Has described himself as an al-Qaeda member and has spent time in Afghanistan and Pakistan

They said he was armed with a Kalashnikov high-velocity rifle, a mini-Uzi 9mm machine pistol, several handguns and possibly grenades.

Street lights were switched off in the vicinity of the building on Wednesday evening and surrounding areas evacuated.

Merah claimed to have received al-Qaeda training in Pakistan's Waziristan area, and also said he had been to Afghanistan.

Mr Gueant defended intelligence services for not preventing the attacks, describing Merah as a "lone wolf".

"The domestic intelligence agency tracks a lot of people who are involved in Islamist radicalism. Expressing ideas... is not enough to bring someone before justice," Mr Gueant said.

Christian Etelin, a lawyer who has previously acted for Merah, said his client had violent tendencies.

"There was his religious engagement, an increasing hatred against the values of a democratic society and a desire to impose what he believes is truth," Mr Etelin said.

He also denied earlier reports that Merah had been jailed for explosives offensives in Afghanistan, saying his client was in jail in France for robbery with violence at the time - from December 2007 to September 2009.

France has seen an unprecedented security clampdown after a lone gunman killed seven people, including three children, in three separate attacks in the south-west of the country.

Police tracked down the main suspect after investigating the movements of a stolen scooter used by the killer to make his escape following shootings in Toulouse and nearby Montauban.
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On 11 March, a soldier was shot and killed while waiting to see a man about selling his motorcycle.

Days later, two soldiers were shot and killed and a third was wounded while waiting at a cash machine.

Then earlier this week, three children and an adult were shot and killed outside a Jewish school.

The four Jewish victims were buried in an emotional funeral in Jerusalem on Wednesday.

Also on Wednesday, President Nicolas Sarkozy attended a memorial for the three murdered soldiers at a military base in Montauban near Toulouse.

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:09 am

Was not hard at all to guess the attacker might be named Mohammed.

Post by **justang1997** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:01 pm

This would be a very successful tactic to use here in the usa. Use our rights against us in order to make us compromise our values like the bill of rights.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/ssracer02 · Post by **ssracer** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:38 pm

Isn't that what's been happening...

Post by **325MOUTguru** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:33 pm

ssracer wrote:Isn't that what's been happening...

Yes

Post by **jackalo626** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:48 pm

This story is false, France has a law against guns!

Post by **WLJ** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:55 pm

jackalo626 wrote:This story is false, France has a law against guns!

Actually, there are guns in France you can't buy here. It's just more of a PITA there.

Post by **jackalo626** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:03 pm

You got the point.... Why poke the lion?

Post by **WLJ** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:06 pm

jackalo626 wrote:You got the point.... Why poke the lion?

Poking lions is fun

But what the heck do lions have to do with this?

:llama:

Post by **jackalo626** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:34 pm

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