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Post by WLJ » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:04 am

Indianapolis going rouge
Mayor and the council are thumbing their noses at the state's preemption law. Be interesting to see if they try to enforce this.
I fully expect Greenturg to do a monkey see monkey do. The little weasel has already been calling for it.
The Indianapolis City-County Council passed a proposed gun control measure by a vote of 18 to five Monday evening.

Introduced by Mayor Joe Hogsett as part of his public safety plan, Proposal 156 was initially approved nine to four by the city's Public Safety and Criminal Justice Committee.

The ordinance increases the age required to purchase a gun in the city to 21 years old, bans "assault rifles" within city limits and mandates a license to carry.
Indianapolis city council votes in favor of banning 'assault' rifles, removing concealed carry
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/indian ... aled-carry
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Post by WLJ » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:18 am

Looks like zero grandfathering
(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter or the Revised Code, it shall be unlawful in
Marion County to buy, sell, possess, display, carry, brandish, or discharge a semiautomatic assault weapon,
as that term is defined in the proposed federal Assault Weapons Ban of 2023 (S.25), Section 2(a), as
introduced in the United States Senate on January 23, 2023
CITY COUNTY COUNCIL PROPOSAL NO. 156, 2023
CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS-MARION COUNTY, INDIANA
https://www.wishtv.com/wp-content/uploa ... 23-156.pdf
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Post by iron369 » Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:44 pm

WLJ wrote:Looks like zero grandfathering
(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter or the Revised Code, it shall be unlawful in
Marion County to buy, sell, possess, display, carry, brandish, or discharge a semiautomatic assault weapon,
as that term is defined in the proposed federal Assault Weapons Ban of 2023 (S.25), Section 2(a), as
introduced in the United States Senate on January 23, 2023
CITY COUNTY COUNCIL PROPOSAL NO. 156, 2023
CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS-MARION COUNTY, INDIANA
https://www.wishtv.com/wp-content/uploa ... 23-156.pdf
How can they base the definition of assault weapon on a bill that is in committee. It’s not even up to be voted on.
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Post by WLJ » Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:08 pm

iron369 wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:44 pm
WLJ wrote:Looks like zero grandfathering
(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter or the Revised Code, it shall be unlawful in
Marion County to buy, sell, possess, display, carry, brandish, or discharge a semiautomatic assault weapon,
as that term is defined in the proposed federal Assault Weapons Ban of 2023 (S.25), Section 2(a), as
introduced in the United States Senate on January 23, 2023
CITY COUNTY COUNCIL PROPOSAL NO. 156, 2023
CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS-MARION COUNTY, INDIANA
https://www.wishtv.com/wp-content/uploa ... 23-156.pdf
How can they base the definition of assault weapon on a bill that is in committee. It’s not even up to be voted on.
They just copied and pasted the definition verbatim from a fed bill. Whether or not it's from a passed bill/active law is immaterial
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Post by WLJ » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:32 am

Suing Facebook, Amazon, and Google among others.
Going after the deep pockets blaming everyone but the shooter.
Tech and social media giants like Facebook, Amazon and Google bear responsibility for radicalizing the Buffalo supermarket shooter, who was fueled by racist conspiracy theories he encountered online, the victim’s relatives said in a lawsuit filed Wednesday.

“They were the conspirators, even if they don’t want to admit it,” civil rights attorney Ben Crump said at a news conference announcing a 171-page lawsuit, which seeks unspecified financial damages as well as changes in how the companies operate.

The suit names several online platforms including Facebook’s parent company Meta, Instagram, Google, Discord and Amazon — which owns Twitch, the livestreaming platform the shooter used to broadcast last year’s shooting. The suit also names RMA Armament, the maker of the gunman’s body armor, as well as the firearms retailers that sold him weapons.
Buffalo attorney Terrence Connors, who along with Crump represents the families, said the legal team has thoroughly examined “the entire line of the gun distribution, the manufacturers of the body armor, the high capacity magazines that are plainly illegal,” as well as not social media platforms.

“What we found was downright scary,” he said.
“There were many people who helped him load that gun,” Crump said. “And it is our objective to make sure that everybody that loaded that gun is held to account.”
Lawsuit by Buffalo supermarket shooting victims pins blame on Facebook, Amazon and other tech giants
https://apnews.com/article/tops-superma ... 3ae252a5d2
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Post by rustynuts » Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:19 pm

WLJ wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:32 am
Suing Facebook, Amazon, and Google among others.
Going after the deep pockets blaming everyone but the shooter.
Tech and social media giants like Facebook, Amazon and Google bear responsibility for radicalizing the Buffalo supermarket shooter, who was fueled by racist conspiracy theories he encountered online, the victim’s relatives said in a lawsuit filed Wednesday.

“They were the conspirators, even if they don’t want to admit it,” civil rights attorney Ben Crump said at a news conference announcing a 171-page lawsuit, which seeks unspecified financial damages as well as changes in how the companies operate.

The suit names several online platforms including Facebook’s parent company Meta, Instagram, Google, Discord and Amazon — which owns Twitch, the livestreaming platform the shooter used to broadcast last year’s shooting. The suit also names RMA Armament, the maker of the gunman’s body armor, as well as the firearms retailers that sold him weapons.
Buffalo attorney Terrence Connors, who along with Crump represents the families, said the legal team has thoroughly examined “the entire line of the gun distribution, the manufacturers of the body armor, the high capacity magazines that are plainly illegal,” as well as not social media platforms.

“What we found was downright scary,” he said.
“There were many people who helped him load that gun,” Crump said. “And it is our objective to make sure that everybody that loaded that gun is held to account.”
Lawsuit by Buffalo supermarket shooting victims pins blame on Facebook, Amazon and other tech giants
https://apnews.com/article/tops-superma ... 3ae252a5d2
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Post by WLJ » Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:22 pm

Massachusetts Democrats race to ram anti-gun bill into law before August recess
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023 ... ess-n72599
Here are just a few of the unconstitutional provisions contained within HD 4420’s 140 pages of infringements, according to GOAL.
Essentially bans hunting on private property
Bans anyone under 15 from training or shooting sports
Mandatory serialization and registration of all feeding devices not just magazines
Massive training requirements that include things like active shooter training
Any changes or repairs to a gun must be approved by the state
A semi-auto turkey gun with a pistol grip will be an Assault Weapon
No one under 21 can purchase any semi-auto gun of any kind or caliber
The definition of “Firearm” would mean any gun, frame, receiver or barrel
In order to carry or transport any gun, property owners must post that they consent to allow guns on their property
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Post by WLJ » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:11 pm

They're trying this again
More than two dozen House Democrats put forward legislation Friday that would slap "assault weapons" and high-capacity magazines with a 1,000% excise tax, a change that would raise the price of a $500 weapon to $5,000 in a bid to reduce access to guns across the country.

Rep. Don Beyer, D-Va., and 24 other House Democrats introduced the legislation Friday. It’s the second time Democrats have put forward the idea.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democr ... -magazines
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Post by WLJ » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:56 pm

The proposed new rules details dropped
The White House outlines criteria that would automatically make someone presumed to require a federal firearms license. These include:

Offering any number of firearms for sale while signaling the ability to sell additional firearms.
Frequently offering for sale firearms bought within the last 30 days.
Selling firearms that are ‘like new’ and in their original packaging.
Selling multiple firearms of the same make and model.
As a former federally-licensed firearms dealer, selling firearms that were in business inventory and not transferred to a personal collection at least a year before the sale.
Biden administration one step closer to eliminating private gun sales
https://bearingarms.com/ryan-petty/2023 ... les-n74413

FACT SHEET: Biden-⁠Harris Administration Takes Another Life-Saving Step to Keep Guns Out of Dangerous Hands
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... ous-hands/

Cue the Jurassic Park "That's a big pile of *expletive deleted*it" meme in regards to the rule's title
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Post by WLJ » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:59 am

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham says she is suspending open and concealed carry privileges in Bernalillo County for the next 30 days.

The governor made the announcement during a news conference Friday afternoon.

Gov. Lujan Grisham declared gun violence a public health emergency Thursday, following the murder of an 11-year-old boy on his way home from an Isotopes game Wednesday night. That case, combined with several other violent cases involving children, sparked the decision.
This goes into effect today and will last for 30 days, at which time Grisham says she’ll decide whether to extend it or adjust.
BREAKING: NM Gov suspends ALL lawful carry in Albuquerque
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/202 ... que-n74614

As usual will only effect the law abiding

Declare criminals a "public health emergency" and start requiring shots.
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Post by WLJ » Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:15 am

The Office of Gun Violence Prevention
Yeah...
Biden to create new office of gun violence prevention
The move, long sought by gun-control groups, comes amid stalled progress on firearms legislation
By Tyler Pager

President Biden on Friday will announce the creation of a new office for gun violence prevention, an escalation of the administration’s efforts to tackle the issue amid stalled progress in Congress, according to four people briefed on the action who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss plans that were not yet public.

Biden and Vice President Harris are scheduled to announce the new office at an event in the White House Rose Garden on Friday afternoon, the people said.

Greg Jackson, a gun violence survivor who is the executive director of the Community Justice Action Fund, and Rob Wilcox, the senior director for federal government affairs at Everytown for Gun Safety, are expected to have key roles in the office, the people said.

The new office will report up through Stefanie Feldman, the White House staff secretary and a longtime Biden policy aide who has worked on the firearms issue for years, the people said. Feldman previously worked on the Domestic Policy Council and still oversees the gun policy portfolio at the White House.

The White House, the Community Justice Action Fund and Everytown for Gun Safety all declined to comment.

Since Biden was elected, gun violence prevention groups have pressed the White House to create such an office, arguing that it would help coordinate efforts across the federal government to reduce gun violence. Activists say this type of office would also allow the White House to exert more leadership on the issue.

“If this announcement is, in fact, the creation of a single point of leadership on gun violence in the administration, it’s a very big deal for the movement,” Shannon Watts, the founder emerita of Moms Demand Action, a group working to stop gun violence, said in a statement after The Washington Post approached her with the news.
We furnish the means by which we suffer: Thomas Paine’s words come true in Biden’s new office
https://bearingarms.com/ranjit-singh/20 ... ice-n75064


WHAT?! Biden To Announce NEW Office To Strip 2A Rights!
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Post by WLJ » Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:18 am

Meanwhile in CA

Full California: The Golden State Legislature Stacks Up Gun Control Bills as the Session Ends
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/full- ... sion-ends/

Senate Bill 241 passed out of the Assembly and is headed to the Senate. The bill requires California firearm retailers and their employees to undergo annual training courses which are implemented by the California Department of Justice (CalDOJ)

Assembly Bill 1406 passed both the Assembly and Senate and is heading to Gov. Newsom for signature. AB 1406 would expand the existing 10-day waiting period on the sale or transfer of a firearm to include a possible 30-day state waiting period.

Senate Bill 368
The bill adds additional requirements and red tape for firearm retailers to navigate should a person experiencing temporary mental health challenges decide to give their firearm to the dealer for storage.

Assembly Bill 1089 passed both the Assembly and Senate and is heading to Gov. Newsom’s desk for possible signature. AB 1089 prohibits anyone, including a gunsmith or hobbyist, from manufacturing a home-built firearm and requires those individuals to register as a state-licensed firearm manufacturer. Building firearms at home has been common since before the founding of the country.

Assembly Bill 28
Would impose an 11 percent excise tax on firearm retailers and manufacturers for all sales of guns or ammunition.

Senate Bill 2 creates a new arbitrary system and criteria for firearm permits making it immensely harder for citizens to obtain carry permits. This is Gov. Newsom’s response to the Bruen decision. Since he didn’t like the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision, he took the same tactic and sought legislation to make it nearly impossible to legally carry a firearm in California – even if an individual has a permit. The bill would make nearly every public place in California a “sensitive place” and deny law-abiding citizens from carrying a firearm.

While there are still only a handful of days remaining, the firearm industry is also watching to see if legislators move a California state Merchant Category Code (MCC) bill (AB 1587) to track individuals who make firearm purchases using a credit card, as well as a microstamping bill (SB 452) which would require the state to study the unworkable and flawed technology on new firearms in the state.
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Post by WLJ » Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:17 pm

This is my shocked face
New York lawmakers are looking at requiring consumers to first go through a criminal history background check before they can buy certain 3D printers.

The legislation is designed to crack down on potential misuse of 3D printers capable of manufacturing gun parts. The proposal comes from Democratic Assemblymember Jenifer Rajkumar, who introduced the bill on Friday.

Under the legislation, 3D printer retailers would need to request a background check from New York’s criminal justice services when a customer tries to make a purchase. Criminal justice services would then need to notify the retailer if the customer has received a felony or serious offense that would make them ineligible to possess a firearm.
NY State Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
https://www.pcmag.com/news/ny-state-bil ... d-printers

NICS Checks For 3D Printers?!
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Post by rustynuts » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:05 am

Black market 3D printers, coming up.

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Post by Niceguy » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:59 pm

TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!!

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Post by Dave1965 » Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:52 pm

true..but I really think I have too many now...lol

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Post by KYgundude » Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:20 pm

SHIT. I just sold my 3D printer for only 300 bucks. I didn't know it was gonna be a pre-ban

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Post by iron369 » Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:56 pm

Dave1965 wrote:true..but I really think I have too many now...lol
You need someone to break in and help you find them all. Lol
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Post by WLJ » Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:55 pm

NJ Congressman pushing, again, for a Fed license which includes a written test and training to purchase a gun. License would have to be renewed ever 5 years.
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Congressman Andy Kim (NJ-03) introduced the Responsible Gun Ownership Licensing Act to require individuals to obtain a firearm license from the Department of Justice (DOJ) in order to purchase or receive a firearm. The legislation is endorsed by VoteVets, an organization that elevates the voices of veterans – a group of Americans who know better than anyone that weapons must be treated with respect and require proper training.
Don't you just love the names they give these bills?

Congressman Kim Reintroduces Legislation to Combat Gun Violence Epidemic
https://kim.house.gov/media/press-relea ... e-epidemic

Cory Booker, also NJ, has been pushing a similar bill that adds finger printing.
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Post by WLJ » Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:56 pm

Joy ;/

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Federal Appeals Court: AR-15s ARE NOT Covered By 2nd Amendment!?!
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SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — A federal appeals court on Friday upheld Illinois’ prohibition on high-power semiautomatic weapons, refusing to put a hold on the law adopted in response to the mass killing of seven people at a 2022 parade in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park.

A three-judge panel of the 7th District U.S. Court of Appeals voted 2-1 on the issue. The majority recognized a difference between firearms for personal use and those the state law reserves for “trained professionals,” semiautomatic weapons, including the popular AR-15.

Federal appeals court upholds Illinois semiautomatic weapons ban
https://apnews.com/article/illinois-sem ... 0974a99cbf
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Post by WLJ » Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:57 pm

Speaking of Il
Their gun registration is going well
According to Illinois State Police data, 2,415,481 gun owners call the Land o’ Lincoln home. Earlier this year, Gov. J.B. Pritzker signed the so-called Protect Illinois Communities Act into law which banned the most many of the most popular guns used for self-defense. Under the law, existing owners of these now verboten firearms must register their guns by January 1, 2024 or face felony charges.

Four weeks into the gun registration window, exactly 2430 of those FOID holders have registered their guns, accessories, or .50 caliber firearms. That works out to .1006%, or about one in a thousand.

What’s even more remarkable is the number of FOID holders choosing to comply has fallen with each passing week.
Granted, not all FOID holders own the guns that are now banned under the law. However, given the popularity of America’s favorite rifle, the AR-15, not to mention semi-auto shotguns, sales numbers suggest that the majority of them have at least one semi-auto rifle or shotgun in their collection. Or perhaps (gasp!) a handgun with a threaded barrel.
We Will Not Comply: Only .1% of Illinois Gun Owners Have Registered Their Newly Banned Guns So Far
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/we-wi ... ns-so-far/
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Post by WLJ » Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:58 pm

Don't even think she's going to stop this nonsense
New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham’s “temporary” public health emergency on gun violence in Albuquerque and Bernalillo County will remain in place for at least another month after she extended her order on Friday, which includes her revised ban on open and concealed carry in parks and playgrounds.

The ban will last until at least December 1st, though it’s quite possible that Grisham will renew the order again at the end of this month, especially since there’s been no real improvement in crime stats in the Albuquerque area.
New Mexico Governor Renews Carry Ban in Parks, Playgrounds
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023 ... nds-n76920
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Post by rustynuts » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:34 am

WLJ wrote:
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Speaking of Il
Their gun registration is going well
According to Illinois State Police data, 2,415,481 gun owners call the Land o’ Lincoln home. Earlier this year, Gov. J.B. Pritzker signed the so-called Protect Illinois Communities Act into law which banned the most many of the most popular guns used for self-defense. Under the law, existing owners of these now verboten firearms must register their guns by January 1, 2024 or face felony charges.

Four weeks into the gun registration window, exactly 2430 of those FOID holders have registered their guns, accessories, or .50 caliber firearms. That works out to .1006%, or about one in a thousand.

What’s even more remarkable is the number of FOID holders choosing to comply has fallen with each passing week.
Granted, not all FOID holders own the guns that are now banned under the law. However, given the popularity of America’s favorite rifle, the AR-15, not to mention semi-auto shotguns, sales numbers suggest that the majority of them have at least one semi-auto rifle or shotgun in their collection. Or perhaps (gasp!) a handgun with a threaded barrel.
We Will Not Comply: Only .1% of Illinois Gun Owners Have Registered Their Newly Banned Guns So Far
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/we-wi ... ns-so-far/
The dumbasses can't even do simple math. That's 0.001006%.

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