Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

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Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by ken6881 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:40 pm

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by ssracer » Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:09 pm

Been tried before. Love to see it happen.

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Post by kokopelli » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:21 pm

Tried a few times. Gummint just laughs

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by Wyldman » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:58 pm

You can bet your ass Lord Yarmouth won't get behind this.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by Toddstang » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:26 pm

Election time. May be a better time to try passing this.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by jackalo626 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:18 pm

Toddstang wrote:Election time. May be a better time to try passing this.
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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by Wyldman » Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:37 pm

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by baknblack » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:19 pm

Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Post by ssracer » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:21 pm

baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by Rem700 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:44 pm

Don't give them any ideas!!!!

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Post by ssracer » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:52 pm

Rem700 wrote:Don't give them any ideas!!!!
raising a tax...they have wet dreams about that idea

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by jackalo626 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:55 am

ssracer wrote:
baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.
Shouldn't be a tax, "shall not be infringed. .... unless it is cool, quiet, scary looking, auto" must be missing from what I've seen but apparently it is there.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by WLJ » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:15 am

Anyone remember the last time the govt removed a preexisting tax? I don't.
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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by baknblack » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:28 pm

WLJ wrote:Anyone remember the last time the govt removed a preexisting tax? I don't.
Me either, I found this extremely funny for some unknown reason.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by Wyldman » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:39 pm

It has never happened.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by DDgunslinger » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:11 pm

It won't pass, I wish it would... but I won't hold my breath. The whole Class 3/ NFA shit is all one big racket and the .gov plans to keep it that way and expand it whenever possible

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by Pitbullcrazyinky » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:15 pm

Just curious. ..would you guys pay 3 or 400 if there was a "express wait"? Lets say 1 or 2 weeks....
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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by Tyler » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:50 pm

ssracer wrote:
baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.
It's about control, not money. I would be very surprised if taxes collected come close to covering the operational costs for the NFA branch of the ATF. Just think of all the overpaid paper pushers and bureaucrats being paid to take part in the infringement of our rights, as well as lights, water, maintenance, electronics, office supplies and legal staff. SOT fees may help out the bottom line, but the tax and forms are simply a nuisance intended to discourage civilian ownership, specifically lower to middle class individuals.
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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by ssracer » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:06 pm

jackalo626 wrote:
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baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.
Shouldn't be a tax, "shall not be infringed. .... unless it is cool, quiet, scary looking, auto" must be missing from what I've seen but apparently it is there.
no argument here

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by jackalo626 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:08 pm

Pitbullcrazyinky wrote:Just curious. ..would you guys pay 3 or 400 if there was a "express wait"? Lets say 1 or 2 weeks....
I won't pay $1 for something I am "truly" free to own but I digress.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by jackalo626 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:09 pm

Tyler wrote:
ssracer wrote:
baknblack wrote:Why would they. It's a cash cow.

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Sadly this is true...especially with the explosion in their popularity in recent years.

The funny thing is when the NFA was started the $200 tax stamp was a lot more money relatively and it was really to put NFA items out of financial reach of everyday folks. Nowadays the $200 still sucks but it's almost more of just an annoyance. It's actually kind of shocking that they never increased that tax with inflation.
It's about control, not money. I would be very surprised if taxes collected come close to covering the operational costs for the NFA branch of the ATF. Just think of all the overpaid paper pushers and bureaucrats being paid to take part in the infringement of our rights, as well as lights, water, maintenance, electronics, office supplies and legal staff. SOT fees may help out the bottom line, but the tax and forms are simply a nuisance intended to discourage civilian ownership, specifically lower to middle class individuals.
Truth, they take our real money elsewhere.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by jackalo626 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:10 pm

We pay taxes annually on items we already own. The logic is buried deep below the ocean floor in an impenetrable vault with 12 locks and no keys.

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by ssracer » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:17 pm

jackalo626 wrote:We pay taxes annually on items we already own. The logic is buried deep below the ocean floor in an impenetrable vault with 12 locks and no keys.
never have been able to bring myself to understand that one. Pay sales tax when you buy a car...then pay more tax every year because...unicorn farts?

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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by jackalo626 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:18 pm

ssracer wrote:
jackalo626 wrote:We pay taxes annually on items we already own. The logic is buried deep below the ocean floor in an impenetrable vault with 12 locks and no keys.
never have been able to bring myself to understand that one. Pay sales tax when you buy a car...then pay more tax every year because...unicorn farts?
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Re: Act to remove suppressor a from nfa oversight

Post by jackalo626 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:18 pm

To be allowed to own something you already paid for..... we are pussies.

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