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Post by WLJ » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:09 am

Remember that NYT article on Lake City providing ammo to mass murderers?

NY AG among other AGs are running with it
Ammunition from Lake City is manufactured for military use and does not belong in our communities. Federal courts have repeatedly noted the military nature of 5.56-millimeter rounds, which are used in militaryissued rifles, such as the M-16. Military-style weapons – and the ammunition specifically manufactured for them – should be limited to military use. Even if military-grade ammunition were appropriate for the civilian market, its sale to private parties should not be subsidized by taxpayer dollars.
In the short term, we ask your Office to investigate the contracting and manufacturing practices that led to so many billions of military-grade rounds being sold into our communities, and to issue a public report with recommendations about how to end the diversion of military ammunition into civilian hands. In the long term, we ask the White House to ensure that future production contracts prohibit the sale of military weapons and ammunition to civilians.
Anti-Gun AGs Take Aim at Lake City Ammo
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024 ... mmo-n79228

The full letter
https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachm ... 5B1%5D.pdf
We write on behalf of the States of New York, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, the District
of Columbia, Hawai‘i, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey,
New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington (the “States”) to express concern about recent
reports that billions of rounds of military-grade ammunition manufactured at the Lake City Army Ammunition
Plant have been sold on the commercial market, leading to their use in many of the most tragic mass shootings
in recent history. We ask your Office to conduct an investigation into the contracting processes that led to this
situation, and to take action to ensure that military-grade and military-subsidized ammunition stays out of
civilian hands.
According to recent reports, the ammunition made at Lake City for our military has been sold to civilians
in mass quantities, leading to these bullets being used in mass shootings, including a shooting in which three
law enforcement officers were killed and multiple school shootings.1 Lake City rounds have become the
ammunition of choice for use in mass shootings, including:
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They Are Coming After 5.56 Ammo Now!!!
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by nemo » Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:07 am

Seems like River City has found themselves in a pickle. This will set a defining precedence.


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Post by ssracer » Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:49 am

I wish I were a judge. I would toss out every one of these clearly frivolous lawsuits and then jail the attourneys for wasting the courts time


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Post by WLJ » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:52 pm

Some some good news and some bad news

First the good news

BREAKING: "Saint" Benitez Declares California "Assault Weapons" Ban Unconstitutional
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023 ... nal-n76315

But he was not done


'Saint' Benitez Strikes Down California Ammunition Background Check Law
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024 ... law-n79997

Now the bad news
@EMPOWR_us has learned through whistleblowers within ATF that at the direction of the White House, ATF has drafted a 1,300 page document to justify a rule effectively banning the private sale of firearms. 🧵
— Tristan Leavitt (@tristanleavitt) January 31, 2024
I'm sure more info will be forthcoming soon on what is going on here if anything

'Unconstitutional and Unenforceable'! ATF Allegedly Drafting Plans to Ban the Sale of Private Fireams
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/01/3 ... s-n2392400
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Post by ssracer » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:08 pm

WLJ wrote:Some some good news and some bad news

First the good news

BREAKING: "Saint" Benitez Declares California "Assault Weapons" Ban Unconstitutional
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023 ... nal-n76315

But he was not done


'Saint' Benitez Strikes Down California Ammunition Background Check Law
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024 ... law-n79997

Now the bad news
@EMPOWR_us has learned through whistleblowers within ATF that at the direction of the White House, ATF has drafted a 1,300 page document to justify a rule effectively banning the private sale of firearms. Image
— Tristan Leavitt (@tristanleavitt) January 31, 2024
I'm sure more info will be forthcoming soon on what is going on here if anything

'Unconstitutional and Unenforceable'! ATF Allegedly Drafting Plans to Ban the Sale of Private Fireams
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/01/3 ... s-n2392400
The administration isn’t satisfied with just a war with Texas, they want the rest of us in on it too…


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Post by WLJ » Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:12 am

Now we got "Zombie" guns and of course that means there's a "Zombie" gun "loophole" that "needs" to be closed
The Zombie Gun Loophole is a problematic way that guns can end up in the hands of those responsible for gun violence. We must close this loophole and destroy zombie guns now. Every life lost to gun violence is one too many. pic.twitter.com/vtawLCCJWj
— Congressman Maxwell Alejandro Frost (@RepMaxwellFrost) March 21, 2024
What is a "Zombie" gun you may ask?
Now 'zombie guns' really aren't all that different from 'ghost guns.' The parts are the result of gun disposal companies only destroying single pieces of guns seized by the police, or from a police officer who retired and turned in their service weapon, and even from gun 'buy-back' programs and then reselling the remaining pieces either separately or as kits that can then become 'ghost guns'.
So yeah
Another imaginary problem to deflect from the real problem

Ghost Guns Weren't Scary Enough, so Maxwell Frost has a New Boogeyman: ZOMBIE GUNS
https://twitchy.com/laura-w/2024/03/22/ ... t-n2394258
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Elkins45 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:30 pm

I wondered when they would get around to noticing all the parts kits being sold by the various Gunbusters companies on GunBroker. Apparently a bunch of police agencies contract with companies to destroy crime guns and those companies have been destroying the frames (which is legally the firearm) and then they sell all the other unregulated parts. I bought a Glock 27 kit that way with everything except the bare frame.

Of course I could have done exactly the same thing by ordering each part individually, but why let facts intrude on a good emotional freak out?

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Post by WLJ » Wed May 15, 2024 7:05 pm

Move over "assault weapon" we now have
Drum roll please
"mass casualty weapon"

Ohio Democrat Unveils Bill to Ban 'Mass Casualty Guns'
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024 ... s-n1224918
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by nemo » Wed May 15, 2024 11:01 pm

WLJ wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 7:05 pm
Move over "assault weapon" we now have
Drum roll please
"mass casualty weapon"

Ohio Democrat Unveils Bill to Ban 'Mass Casualty Guns'
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024 ... s-n1224918


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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Sat May 18, 2024 11:10 am

Anyone have a muzzle brake from Lethal Eye? If so the ATF may be looking for you
Why Was the ATF Seizing These Muzzle Brakes This Past Week? In this video, I discuss a recent warning notice from the ATF regarding three types of muzzle brakes manufactured by Lethal Eye (KBC Capital LLC). The ATF is classifying these devices as silencers and has given recipients 30 days to coordinate their abandonment. I'll explain the situation, reference the relevant legal cases, and provide guidance on what to do if you've received one of these letters. I'm not your lawyer, this is not legal advice.
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Post by ssracer » Sat May 18, 2024 1:11 pm

Never even heard of them


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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Tue May 21, 2024 9:54 am

Here a bill that bans 50 cal rifles and ammo and more
The Stop Arming Cartels Act of 2024 proposes banning the manufacture, sale, possession, importation or transfer of .50-caliber rifles by civilians in the United States. The legislation filed by Democratic U.S. Reps. Joaquin Castro and Veronica Escobar of Texas, and Maxwell Frost of Florida would require anyone who possesses one such rifle prior to the bill going into effect to register it in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

The bill also calls for victims of gun violence to be allowed to sue manufacturers and dealers who violate a federal statute known as the Kingpin Act. It establishes an exemption to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that shields gunmakers from most lawsuits.
https://www.wboy.com/border-report-tour ... er-rifles/

Other provisions include mandating gun dealers to report multiple sales of rifles to state and local law enforcement.
House Democrats propose ban on .50-caliber rifles

The bill https://castro.house.gov/imo/media/doc/ ... ls_act.pdf

Guns & Gadgets video

Bill Looks To Ban .50 Cal Firearms and Force Those Already Owned Into The NFA...And More!
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Dave1965 » Tue May 21, 2024 1:18 pm

buying multiple rifles also would have to be reported like buying multiple pistols..ugh

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Post by ssracer » Tue May 21, 2024 9:40 pm

Dave1965 wrote:buying multiple rifles also would have to be reported like buying multiple pistols..ugh
You guys are still “buying” rifles? :llama”




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Post by Dave1965 » Tue May 21, 2024 10:59 pm

ssracer wrote:
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Dave1965 wrote:buying multiple rifles also would have to be reported like buying multiple pistols..ugh
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sure , when you have one of every pistol...you move to get all the rifles.

Never seen one of them thar M1 Garand pistols but who knows.

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Post by Niceguy » Wed May 22, 2024 8:07 pm

WLJ wrote:Here a bill that bans 50 cal rifles and ammo and more
The Stop Arming Cartels Act of 2024 proposes banning the manufacture, sale, possession, importation or transfer of .50-caliber rifles by civilians in the United States. The legislation filed by Democratic U.S. Reps. Joaquin Castro and Veronica Escobar of Texas, and Maxwell Frost of Florida would require anyone who possesses one such rifle prior to the bill going into effect to register it in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

The bill also calls for victims of gun violence to be allowed to sue manufacturers and dealers who violate a federal statute known as the Kingpin Act. It establishes an exemption to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that shields gunmakers from most lawsuits.
https://www.wboy.com/border-report-tour ... er-rifles/

Other provisions include mandating gun dealers to report multiple sales of rifles to state and local law enforcement.
House Democrats propose ban on .50-caliber rifles

The bill https://castro.house.gov/imo/media/doc/ ... ls_act.pdf

Guns & Gadgets video

Bill Looks To Ban .50 Cal Firearms and Force Those Already Owned Into The NFA...And More!
I wonder how many .50cal's have been used in crimes, of any kind...

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by ssracer » Wed May 22, 2024 10:06 pm

Niceguy wrote:
WLJ wrote:Here a bill that bans 50 cal rifles and ammo and more
The Stop Arming Cartels Act of 2024 proposes banning the manufacture, sale, possession, importation or transfer of .50-caliber rifles by civilians in the United States. The legislation filed by Democratic U.S. Reps. Joaquin Castro and Veronica Escobar of Texas, and Maxwell Frost of Florida would require anyone who possesses one such rifle prior to the bill going into effect to register it in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

The bill also calls for victims of gun violence to be allowed to sue manufacturers and dealers who violate a federal statute known as the Kingpin Act. It establishes an exemption to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that shields gunmakers from most lawsuits.
https://www.wboy.com/border-report-tour ... er-rifles/

Other provisions include mandating gun dealers to report multiple sales of rifles to state and local law enforcement.
House Democrats propose ban on .50-caliber rifles

The bill https://castro.house.gov/imo/media/doc/ ... ls_act.pdf

Guns & Gadgets video

Bill Looks To Ban .50 Cal Firearms and Force Those Already Owned Into The NFA...And More!
I wonder how many .50cal's have been used in crimes, of any kind...

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by iron369 » Thu May 23, 2024 11:12 am

Niceguy wrote:
WLJ wrote:Here a bill that bans 50 cal rifles and ammo and more
The Stop Arming Cartels Act of 2024 proposes banning the manufacture, sale, possession, importation or transfer of .50-caliber rifles by civilians in the United States. The legislation filed by Democratic U.S. Reps. Joaquin Castro and Veronica Escobar of Texas, and Maxwell Frost of Florida would require anyone who possesses one such rifle prior to the bill going into effect to register it in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

The bill also calls for victims of gun violence to be allowed to sue manufacturers and dealers who violate a federal statute known as the Kingpin Act. It establishes an exemption to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that shields gunmakers from most lawsuits.
https://www.wboy.com/border-report-tour ... er-rifles/

Other provisions include mandating gun dealers to report multiple sales of rifles to state and local law enforcement.
House Democrats propose ban on .50-caliber rifles

The bill https://castro.house.gov/imo/media/doc/ ... ls_act.pdf

Guns & Gadgets video

Bill Looks To Ban .50 Cal Firearms and Force Those Already Owned Into The NFA...And More!
I wonder how many .50cal's have been used in crimes, of any kind...

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iron369 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 11:12 am
Niceguy wrote:
WLJ wrote:Here a bill that bans 50 cal rifles and ammo and more
The Stop Arming Cartels Act of 2024 proposes banning the manufacture, sale, possession, importation or transfer of .50-caliber rifles by civilians in the United States. The legislation filed by Democratic U.S. Reps. Joaquin Castro and Veronica Escobar of Texas, and Maxwell Frost of Florida would require anyone who possesses one such rifle prior to the bill going into effect to register it in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

The bill also calls for victims of gun violence to be allowed to sue manufacturers and dealers who violate a federal statute known as the Kingpin Act. It establishes an exemption to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that shields gunmakers from most lawsuits.
https://www.wboy.com/border-report-tour ... er-rifles/

Other provisions include mandating gun dealers to report multiple sales of rifles to state and local law enforcement.
House Democrats propose ban on .50-caliber rifles

The bill https://castro.house.gov/imo/media/doc/ ... ls_act.pdf

Guns & Gadgets video

Bill Looks To Ban .50 Cal Firearms and Force Those Already Owned Into The NFA...And More!
I wonder how many .50cal's have been used in crimes, of any kind...

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:42 pm

Well apparently not only are they suing Danial Defense for the Uvalde school shooting but also Fedex and UPS.
Fedex for shipping the rifle used. Before you ask yes it was shipped to an FFL but that doesn't seem matter to them.
UPS for shipping a Hellfire trigger device to the kid.

https://www.expressnews.com/news/articl ... 498710.php
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by WLJ » Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:58 am

Bumpstock ban shot down by the SC

6-3 You can probably guess who the 3 were
Glancing at what Sotomayor said basically she couldn't care less what the Constitution says because Feelings > Constitution

Supreme Court strikes down Trump-era ban on bump stocks on guns
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/14/politics ... index.html
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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Rem700 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:42 pm

WLJ wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:58 am
Bumpstock ban shot down by the SC

6-3 You can probably guess who the 3 were
Glancing at what Sotomayor said basically she couldn't care less what the Constitution says because Feelings > Constitution

Supreme Court strikes down Trump-era ban on bump stocks on guns
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/14/politics ... index.html
Linky no worky

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Re: Gun Control Watch

Post by Dustin » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:02 pm

Rem700 wrote:
WLJ wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:58 am
Bumpstock ban shot down by the SC

6-3 You can probably guess who the 3 were
Glancing at what Sotomayor said basically she couldn't care less what the Constitution says because Feelings > Constitution

Supreme Court strikes down Trump-era ban on bump stocks on guns
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/14/politics ... index.html
Linky no worky
I’m shocked cnn took it down.


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