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Post by Toecutter1978 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:47 pm

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NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar likened the national anthem to songs that were sung by slaves while they were forced to do manual labor.
“Slaves are generally expected to sing as well as to work.” Abdul-Jabbar wrote, adding slaves had to sing their “oppressor’s feel-good songs” as well.

He wrote that the “Star-Spangled Banner” is the song that President Trump – the oppressor – is demanding to be sung.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar compares national anthem to songs of slavery
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... avery.html
I can agree on the My old Kentucky Home song is about slavery, especially the verse that is often left out, but the National Anthem??

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Post by WLJ » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:51 pm

Toecutter1978 wrote:
WLJ wrote:
NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar likened the national anthem to songs that were sung by slaves while they were forced to do manual labor.
“Slaves are generally expected to sing as well as to work.” Abdul-Jabbar wrote, adding slaves had to sing their “oppressor’s feel-good songs” as well.

He wrote that the “Star-Spangled Banner” is the song that President Trump – the oppressor – is demanding to be sung.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar compares national anthem to songs of slavery
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... avery.html
I can agree on the My old Kentucky Home song is about slavery, especially the verse that is often left out, but the National Anthem??

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Here ya go
Star-Spangled Bigotry: The Hidden Racist History of the National Anthem
https://www.theroot.com/star-spangled-b ... 1790855893

In short the Nation Anthem is guilty by association.
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Post by WLJ » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:11 pm

Don't forget the Gadsden flag is "racist" as well

Wearing ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ insignia could be punishable racial harassment
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Post by WLJ » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:15 pm

While we're down this rabbit hole
Patriotism has never been a racially equitable experience because it was never designed to be.

This weekend, people voiced what they envision in the American flag. Golden State Warriors coach Steve Kerr asked rhetorically, “You know what else is offensive to our flag? Racism.” I applaud the spirit of his wording, but it is not historically accurate. America is racist. Its history, its culture and, if this recent election is any indicator, many of its citizens are tied to racism and the benefits it provides them.

President Donald Trump is a white supremacist and is keenly aware of the symbolism the flag represents. That is why he tweeted this morning to #StandForOurAnthem. Both the anthem and the flag are symbols of white hegemony. Freedom? Sure. For white people.
Trump would not have won the White House if millions of patriots were not emotionally attuned to his rhetoric of “Make America great again,” which is nothing more than a death cry for people who feel their whiteness is being devalued as the country becomes more diverse.

We are seeing patriotism in action, folks. Trump is in office banning as many Muslims from entering the nation as possible, conservative state lawmakers are creating voter-suppression laws designed to keep black and Latino people from voting, and law enforcement is as murderous against nonwhite people as ever. Black blood is being spilled across the country, and white people are more than happy to support the cops doing the killing.
Patriotism Is for White People
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Post by WLJ » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:21 pm

According to to the above article Maxine Water hates black people

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WLJ wrote:According to to the above article Maxine Water hates black people

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According to statistics, Maxine hates black people.

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Rem700 wrote:
WLJ wrote:According to to the above article Maxine Water hates black people
According to statistics, Maxine hates black people.
Racist!


I almost mentioned that myself.
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Post by WLJ » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:40 pm

Only color Mad Maxine likes is green. As in dollar bill green
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Clinton tweeted in response to a NowThis report on Mariana Taylor, a Maryland sixth-grader who refused to stand for her classroom’s recitation of the pledge, instead adopting the form of protest used by NFL players.

“It takes courage to exercise your right to protest injustice, especially when you’re 11! Keep up the good work Mariana,” Clinton tweeted.
The Washington Post reported in May that Taylor, a student at Catonsville Middle School, is a “sixth-grader with strong beliefs about racial injustice, sexism, gay rights and President Trump’s proposed wall at the Mexico border.”

According to the Post, Taylor says she was reprimanded by her teacher, leading to the involvement of her parents as well as the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland. However, her school has said she wasn’t punished for her actions.
Hillary Clinton backs kid who knelt during Pledge of Allegiance: 'Keep up the good work'
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Post by Rescue9 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:28 am

I can agree on the My old Kentucky Home song is about slavery, especially the verse that is often left out, but the National Anthem??
I'm getting tired of this bullshit! As someone who is a direct line descendent of Francis Scott Key it really sickens me to see the legacy of my grandfather's song disgraced in such a way. We know this song was written to glorify the nation through a very trying time with the British.

I personally don't give a shit who sings it; white, black, blue, red...... For shits sake, I don't care if frogs sing it. However, the adamant opposition toward anything that speaks to our heritage, patriotism, and history is what's really tearing our nation apart. Enough already!

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Post by PDM » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:17 pm

Rescue9 wrote:
I can agree on the My old Kentucky Home song is about slavery, especially the verse that is often left out, but the National Anthem??
I'm getting tired of this bullshit! As someone who is a direct line descendent of Francis Scott Key it really sickens me to see the legacy of my grandfather's song disgraced in such a way. We know this song was written to glorify the nation through a very trying time with the British.

I personally don't give a shit who sings it; white, black, blue, red...... For shits sake, I don't care if frogs sing it. However, the adamant opposition toward anything that speaks to our heritage, patriotism, and history is what's really tearing our nation apart. Enough already!

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If you want to protest the flag, I will gladly list everything it stands for and make sure they don’t apply to you.
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Post by WLJ » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:32 pm

I hate people
The intruders boarded the World War II-era vessel, which is berthed in a New Jersey river, and opened underwater hatches, flooding the sub. The thieves also stole several plaques.
World War II-era submarine flooded by vandals in New Jersey
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Post by PDM » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:34 pm

WLJ wrote:I hate people
This
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Post by ssracer » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:21 pm

Fucking hippies
An idealistic Millennial couple who bicycled through the wilds of Muslim central Asia in the belief that “humans are kind” and that “evil is a make-believe concept” have been murdered by Islamic terrorists.

Americans Jay Austin and Lauren Geoghegan, both in their 20s, were among four cyclists killed last month in Tajikistan by two Islamic State terrorists who first rammed them with their car, then stabbed and shot them.

Now their fate has been given added poignancy – or, some would say, bitter irony – by the discovery of a blog written by Austin revealing a hippyish optimism tragically at odds with reality.

As the Pluralist reports:

“You read the papers and you’re led to believe that the world is a big, scary place,” Austin wrote.

“People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil.”
“I don’t buy it,” he continued. “Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own… By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind.”

Some ungenerous souls are suggesting that Austin and Geoghegan ought now to be eligible for a posthumous Darwin Award; that they more or less invited their fate with their hippy naivety.



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Post by jackalo626 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:28 pm

ssracer wrote:Fucking hippies
An idealistic Millennial couple who bicycled through the wilds of Muslim central Asia in the belief that “humans are kind” and that “evil is a make-believe concept” have been murdered by Islamic terrorists.

Americans Jay Austin and Lauren Geoghegan, both in their 20s, were among four cyclists killed last month in Tajikistan by two Islamic State terrorists who first rammed them with their car, then stabbed and shot them.

Now their fate has been given added poignancy – or, some would say, bitter irony – by the discovery of a blog written by Austin revealing a hippyish optimism tragically at odds with reality.

As the Pluralist reports:

“You read the papers and you’re led to believe that the world is a big, scary place,” Austin wrote.

“People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil.”
“I don’t buy it,” he continued. “Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own… By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind.”

Some ungenerous souls are suggesting that Austin and Geoghegan ought now to be eligible for a posthumous Darwin Award; that they more or less invited their fate with their hippy naivety.



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Post by Frailer » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:58 pm

ssracer wrote:Fucking hippies
An idealistic Millennial couple who bicycled through the wilds of Muslim central Asia in the belief that “humans are kind” and that “evil is a make-believe concept” have been murdered by Islamic terrorists.

Americans Jay Austin and Lauren Geoghegan, both in their 20s, were among four cyclists killed last month in Tajikistan by two Islamic State terrorists who first rammed them with their car, then stabbed and shot them.

Now their fate has been given added poignancy – or, some would say, bitter irony – by the discovery of a blog written by Austin revealing a hippyish optimism tragically at odds with reality.

As the Pluralist reports:

“You read the papers and you’re led to believe that the world is a big, scary place,” Austin wrote.

“People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil.”
“I don’t buy it,” he continued. “Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own… By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind.”

Some ungenerous souls are suggesting that Austin and Geoghegan ought now to be eligible for a posthumous Darwin Award; that they more or less invited their fate with their hippy naivety.



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Mostly BS.

Yes, they were killed. Yes, ISIS claimed responsibility for their brutal murder. Yes, they were hopelessly naive to travel in parts of the world with which they were completely unfamiliar.

But they never made any claims that the world is free from evil. That’s just made-up claptrap. The quotes are wholly bogus.

To quote the president: fake news.

Here’s a direct link to the blog they wrote during their trip. You’ll find no reference to their opinions on the nature of man:

http://www.simplycycling.org/blog/

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Post by WLJ » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:48 am

Yeah, sounded too good to be true. But it's getting harder and harder to separate the true "funny" ones from the made up "funny" ones as of late. That's why Monty Python doesn't have the impact it used to have anymore, their skits have become real life.
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Post by WLJ » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:02 am

It's always about race

The Right To Be Afraid
There’s something wrong here that our legal system is, apparently, incapable of addressing.
“He owned the gun legally and had a concealed carry permit.”

That matters?

In an otherwise neutral and informative article, this reads like a bit of legal fetishism. Another human being is dead, oh so needlessly and pointlessly, thanks to a moment of lethally armed anger in a convenience store parking lot in Clearwater, Florida last month. But the killer’s weapon was bureaucratically correct: clean as a whistle.

This is more than merely irrelevant. There’s something wrong here that our legal system is, apparently, incapable of addressing.

The July 19 death of Markeis McGlockton was back in the news recently because the shooter, Michael Drejka, wound up being charged, a month later, with manslaughter. Thanks to the state’s Stand Your Ground law, he, like George Zimmerman in 2012, was initially allowed to walk free. He had been “defending himself,” or at least he thought he was, and that was good enough for the state of Florida.

The young man who was shot, a father of three, also thought he was defending himself, or his family, but . . . . oh well. When guns are involved, interpersonal complexity vanishes and life becomes very simple. One guy wins. The other guy loses.

What happened was, McGlockton drove into the Circle A Food Store parking lot with his girlfriend and their children – a 4-month-old, a 3-year-old and a 5-year-old – parked in the handicap spot and, with his 5-year-old son, went into the store to buy chips and soft drinks. No, he wasn’t handicapped. They had no permit to park there.

Drejka, who happened to be in the parking lot at the time, took offense at this and began lecturing Britany Jacobs, who was sitting in the car with the other two children. “He was picking a fight. I’m just sitting, waiting for my family to come back to the car,” she said afterward.

McGlockton heard the commotion and became alarmed. He ran out of the store and confronted Drejka, pushing him to the ground. Drejka, still on the ground, pulled out his fully legal handgun and shot McGlockton in the chest. Mortally wounded, McGlockton staggered back into the store and collapsed in front of his screaming son. He died as his girlfriend knelt at his side, trying to stanch the flow of blood.

Picayune legal issues are so beside the point in this tragedy. But in the U.S. system of justice, tragedy quickly collapses into trivia. The shooter paused for several seconds before he fired. Does that indicate he wasn’t truly in fear of his life? This may be part of the case the prosecution makes against Drejka. Under Florida’s recently revised Stand Your Ground law, the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove that deadly force was not justified.

“What’s relevant is not whether this guy’s a good guy, nice guy, or whether he’s a jerk, or whether he’s a thorn in people’s side,” Sheriff Bob Gualtieri explained the next day. “What’s relevant and the only thing we can look at here is, was he in fear of further bodily harm?”

Something seems to be missing here. Whatever the legal system regards as relevant, a man is dead for no reason and the state, it seems, is having a hard time trying to care. Could the fact that the dead man is black and the accused killer is white have something to do with this?

Ten days after the shooting, Andrew Gillum, the mayor of Tallahassee and a Democratic candidate for governor, addressing a packed audience at Clearwater’s Mt. Carmel Baptist Church, put the matter bluntly: “We . . . know that ‘stand your ground’ is not colorblind. Because of the color of my skin, I represent a certain level of threat.”

Legally coddled racism? In the United States of America?

John Roman of the Urban Institute’s Justice Policy Center, quoted by Michael Harriot at The Root, pointed out in a 2012 study: “Whites who kill blacks in Stand Your Ground states are far more likely to be found justified in their killings. In non-Stand Your Ground states, whites are 250 percent more likely to be found justified in killing a black person than a white person who kills another white person; in Stand Your Ground states, that number jumps to 354 percent.”

Harriot adds: “The data is clear: ‘Stand your ground’ laws benefit white people who kill blacks.”

There’s something else to add to the mix. Combine Stand Your Ground mentality with concealed carry laws and what you have is constantly simmering danger for all people of color, for two reasons: 1. Most people, as the Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence points out, “carry biases against racial minorities beyond their conscious awareness.” 2. Being armed intensifies one’s fear alert. The coalition notes that, according to a study by Notre Dame psychology professor James Brockmole, “Wielding a gun increases a person’s bias to see guns in the hands of others.”

I return to a man bleeding to death inside a convenience store as his 5-year-old son looks on. Markeis McGlockton’s death was a tragedy born of fear and, in all likelihood, racism – both of which were legally armed. Our legal and political systems lack the will to take on guns any more than they are willing to take on war. Indeed, I note in passing that the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act has just been signed by the president, its bipartisan approval hemorrhaging another $717 billion for military spending next year to perpetuate violence at the global level.

What this says to me is that the nation’s first priority is not people’s safety so much as the protection of their right to be afraid.
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Post by WLJ » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:16 am

And how about a little, okay alot, of TDS
“Can I just say quickly, I just, just -- no, I like the idea that, you know, you see as the example, the bad example of, like, what would be the core that would say it was okay for Donald Trump to dissolve media institutions, because media institutions are super unpopular,” Heilemann managed to babble out in his typical speech pattern before continuing more coherently: “I would like a pollster to test this question: How many people in the Republican Party think that it would be okay for Donald Trump to dissolve their own grandparents?”
“I’m virtually certain that if it was a Donald Trump-related question, you’d get like ten percent that would be, like, Donald Trump has the power to do whatever he wants, including kill my parents,” Heilemann insisted.
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Post by rustynuts » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:10 pm

...I am so going to hell.

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Post by WLJ » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:25 pm

Did you really think they were going to let this go?
If you doubt the intensity of the left’s fixation on punishing people of faith, I submit to you the Colorado’s so-called Civil Rights Commission. Despite Masterpiece Cakeshop winning a 7-2 U.S. Supreme Court victory condemning the state for punishing Jack Phillips for his religious beliefs, they’re going after him again. This time, the set-up involves a request for a variety of cakes that would violate his religious belief, including a cake celebrating a gender transition.
Tammy Bruce: 'Bake the cake or else' is back -- Baker who won high court ruling is under renewed assault
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Post by jackalo626 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:32 pm

WLJ wrote:Did you really think they were going to let this go?
If you doubt the intensity of the left’s fixation on punishing people of faith, I submit to you the Colorado’s so-called Civil Rights Commission. Despite Masterpiece Cakeshop winning a 7-2 U.S. Supreme Court victory condemning the state for punishing Jack Phillips for his religious beliefs, they’re going after him again. This time, the set-up involves a request for a variety of cakes that would violate his religious belief, including a cake celebrating a gender transition.
Tammy Bruce: 'Bake the cake or else' is back -- Baker who won high court ruling is under renewed assault
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/08/ ... sault.html
I see him winning a harrassment lawsuit so sue away dummies.

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