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Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:24 pm
by Toecutter1978
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Found this at Harbor Freight today. The design is getting close to what I want. The weight of it is manageable, but I wish I could find it in a longer version.


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Now this aluminum pry bar is also getting close to my idea. However one end needs to be able to traverse every uneven terrain. Some might think why not just start a pry bar to your pack and jay use the trekking poles you have. I'm tired of watching them bend when moving leaves, flipping over small rocks and they can take much hitting.

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:06 am
by Toecutter1978
Does anybody know of a good "free" Windows design program that I can make what I want. I am thinking some kind of build cad program?

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:21 am
by Tomahawk
ballscutoff1978 wrote:Does anybody know of a good "free" Windows design program that I can make what I want. I am thinking some kind of build cad program?
Google told me this

http://blog.cometdocs.com/10-great-free ... to-autocad

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:24 am
by Toecutter1978
Thank you. Any of those you have used?

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:30 am
by Toecutter1978
Any sight that gives the benefits of different metal designs for a tread of grip surface?

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:47 am
by Whootsinator
Sketchup is the one I'm most familiar with. I think it's the most prolific/supported free design software, but it might not be the most powerful/best.

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:45 am
by Toecutter1978
I haven't found something that will build to a materials strengths or weaknesses.


Also for the butt end, I can't figure out how to ha e the metal shaped for superior gripping on rock and odd shaped surfaces.

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:42 pm
by Whootsinator
ballscutoff1978 wrote:I haven't found something that will build to a materials strengths or weaknesses.


Also for the butt end, I can't figure out how to ha e the metal shaped for superior gripping on rock and odd shaped surfaces.
Thread it to use the same carbide inserts used on higher end trekking poles.

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:27 pm
by ssracer
Just get decent trekking poles and strap one of these to your pack :D

http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-30-000715- ... B00BBJQYEA

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:09 pm
by Whootsinator
ballscutoff1978 wrote:Some might think why not just start a pry bar to your pack and jay use the trekking poles you have. I'm tired of watching them bend when moving leaves, flipping over small rocks and they can take much hitting.
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Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:17 pm
by Dave1965
How did people survive hiking all these years with no specifically engineered poles? :?

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:52 pm
by guncrank1
Dave1965 wrote:How did people survive hiking all these years with no specifically engineered poles? :?

Grit , Blood ,and Guts

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:39 am
by Toecutter1978
Dave1965 wrote:How did people survive hiking all these years with no specifically engineered poles? :?
It's amazing we got this far!

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:43 am
by Toecutter1978
So this has gotten me thinking, on different ways to make this as light as possible.

1. Aluminum hollow rod filled with a stiffening Harding polymer that is lightweight. This to add strength to the rod so it can take even more abuse.

2. Same as above, but with a steel pipe.

3. Possibly a stainless pipe?

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:02 am
by Toecutter1978
How about having an aluminum bar pressed into a steel pipe, or vice a versa to make a very strong pole that is lightweight

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:09 am
by Whootsinator
"lightweight" lol

You may run into issues with dissimilar metals (galvanic corrosion).

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:33 am
by justang1997
son of liberty wrote:Buy a fiberglass shovel handle and cut to desired length, still cant help but think a stick of osage or ironwood would be my choice.
+1 for the shovel handle.

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:54 pm
by Dave1965
damn man, you have too much time on your hands...you need a job :roll:

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:11 pm
by Niceguy
Haha

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:25 pm
by Rem700
alll this for a walking stick? Dude......pick up stick in the woods.......use to walk, flip rocks, hit stuff, hit people, what ever you need it to do.....then discard when done. Repeat next time. Or keep it and carve your initials in it.....stamp an angry orchard cap on top so people know its yours. DONE!!!!!!!!!

Re: Hiking/trail work poles

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:49 pm
by guncrank1
One last time
3/4 carbon alloy stainless with end hardened to a chisel point.

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:54 pm
by Toecutter1978
Dave1965 wrote:damn man, you have too much time on your hands...you need a job :roll:
You and the wife. I retired in my 30's so I can be a bum and a slacker. Also to annoy you.





:llama:


Hahaha

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:59 pm
by Toecutter1978
guncrank1 wrote:One last time
3/4 carbon alloy stainless with end hardened to a chisel point.
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This is what you are talking about correct?

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:02 pm
by Toecutter1978
Rem700 wrote:alll this for a walking stick? Dude......pick up stick in the woods.......use to walk, flip rocks, hit stuff, hit people, what ever you need it to do.....then discard when done. Repeat next time. Or keep it and carve your initials in it.....stamp an angry orchard cap on top so people know its yours. DONE!!!!!!!!!

Haven't you figured it out yet? I like to complicate things due to my lack of understanding. You should have seen that guy answering all my questions at metal supermarket, he was happy when I left.


One of the main issues is trying to convey what I am thinking to another person or my attempts to design it.
Also, since I don't own a welder, this has to be done with simple tools.

Re: Hiking/trail work pole

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:57 pm
by guncrank1
ballscutoff1978 wrote:
guncrank1 wrote:One last time
3/4 carbon alloy stainless with end hardened to a chisel point.
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This is what you are talking about correct?
Pipe not heat treatable ,may have tubing that is.