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Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:22 am
by WLJ
Have a Marlin Glennfield 60 I've had since the 80s and was mounting scope rings on it and notice they were sitting not quite right so I took a set of calibers and measured the dovetail and the top measured 10.83mm. Okay that doesn't seem right, not what should be expect for an older American rimfire, should be closer to 12.70 for a 3/8 dovetail.
Was Marlin using the European standard on their rimfires backthen?

Pulled out a Russian made 22 I have and it measured 10.94mm which is correct (or near enough) for European. A Serbian made Remington and it measured 12.65mm
Unfortunately for measuring purposes all my American made rimfires other than the Marlin 60 have either pic or weaver rails.

Anyone else have a Marlin 60 you can measure?
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Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:32 am
by plumber_bob
WLJ wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:22 am
Have a Marlin Glennfield 60 I've had since the 80s and was mounting scope rings on it and notice they were sitting not quite right so I took a set of calibers and measured the dovetail and the top measured 10.83mm. Okay that doesn't seem right, not what should be expect for an older American rimfire, should be closer to 12.70 for a 3/8 dovetail.
Was Marlin using the European standard on their rimfires backthen?

Pulled out a Russian made 22 I have and it measured 10.94mm which is correct for European. A Serbian made Remington and it measured 12.65mm
Unfortunately for measuring purposes all my American made rimfires other than the Marlin 60 have either pic or weaver rails.

Anyone else have a Marlin 60 you can measure?

Dovetail dimensions-01.jpg
I've got one but it's a decade or more older. Not sure if that would be much help.
I can check it this afternoon when I get off work if I don't forget by then. lol

pb

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:34 am
by WLJ
Honesty I don't know when this 60 was made, I got it used in the 80s. Traded a guy a single shot 410 for it.

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:43 am
by plumber_bob
Mines late 60's or early 70's I'm pretty sure, as I bought it off a guy for $20 back around 78 or so and it was like new then.

pb

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:53 am
by nemo
Let me check my squirrel stock and papoose.

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:54 am
by WLJ
nemo wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:53 am
Let me check my squirrel stock and papoose.
Mine is the squirrel stock

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:59 am
by WLJ
Think my measuring may had solved a little mystery about my Remington Model 5, the Serbian made 22. The Remington 5 is a Zastava MP22R with better finish and nicer stock and of course Remington's name on it..

I noticed when mounting scope rings on it that I had to keep the rearward ring forward of the bolt handle shaft channel otherwise it the shaft would bump into the ring mount. Always thought maybe that was a design oversight but maybe not now or at least not Zastava's. Note how the dovetail measurement on the R5 was for a 3/8 dovetail (American). Maybe the original Zastava has a 11mm dovetail and Remington requested it be changed to 3/8 on the R5 thus making it a touch wider and just wide enough to interfere. Hmmmm

Unfortunately I don't have a Zastava MP22R to measure.

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:49 pm
by nemo
11mm for the 60 - 11.45mm for the papoose (technically a 70 - mag fed)

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Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:57 pm
by WLJ
WTF Marlin

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:59 pm
by nemo
Here’s the adaptoid I used to scope the 60. No name brand or marks. Think I bought it off flea-bay.

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Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:12 pm
by WLJ
Thanks I have rings that will work,
More than anything else wanted to make sure my 60 wasn't a freak or something and surprised Marlin would be using the European style dovetail on something back in the 70s and 80s.

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:17 pm
by WLJ
According to this website my Marlin 60 was made in 1974

https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/marlin-s ... -1664.html

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:51 pm
by plumber_bob
My dove tail measured at 10.75mm
Mine is a Glenfield model 60. Came with a cheap Glenfield scope.
According to your link, mine dates to 1978 which is about right for the time line I bought it in.

pb

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:58 pm
by nemo
My 60 dates '76 and the papoose '80

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:27 pm
by WLJ
BTW: It's not just the width that is different

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Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:00 am
by WLJ
Well poop
In 2020 Marlin was sold to Sturm, Ruger & Co. when Remington Arms assets were sold off. Production of the Model 60 ceased at this time. Ruger relaunched Marlin in fall of 2021. As of January 2022, Ruger announced it has no plans to resume production of the Model 60.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_60

Checked the website, no rimfires listed. Guess Ruger decided since it competed with the 10/22 No Model 60 for you!
I recommenced the 60 to a lot of first time shooters

Re: Marlin 60 dovetail size

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:17 am
by WLJ
Looks like parts have gone way up on E-Bay