Heard it's a bad idea to keep a loaded mag in saiga

Post by **WLJ** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:55 am

Because the shell casing pressing up against the bottom of the bolt will deform from the pressure.
Any one know of any 12ga shells that won't do this?

Post by **ChopperDoc** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:21 am

WLJ wrote:Because the shell casing pressing up against the bottom of the bolt will deform from the pressure.
Any one know of any 12ga shells that won't do this?

Doesn't Wolf sell some metal case ones? Never used them, don't know if they are tough enough to not deform.

Post by **DDgunslinger** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:26 am

You could just run, one less round and the might reduce pressure on the top shell... Just a thought

Post by **guncrank1** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:36 am

The bullshit meter just got spiked again

Post by **WLJ** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:01 pm

And? You can't stop there, please explain.

Post by **WLJ** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:06 pm

I was just going by where I read some people have had the top round in the mag deform over time enough from pressing up against the bottom of the bolt to where it won't chamber. We're not talking over night but in a Saiga 12 kept ready for a period of time.
I'm talking about Saiga 12 stick mags, not tube mags shotguns.

If it's bull I would like to know. Haven't run my own tests yet to test it out.

Post by **jackalo626** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:17 pm

Never thought about it since I don't have one but interesting.

Post by **guncrank1** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:21 pm

WLJ wrote:I was just going by where I read some people have had the top round in the mag deform over time enough from pressing up against the bottom of the bolt to where it won't chamber. We're not talking over night but in a Saiga 12 kept ready for a period of time.
I'm talking about Saiga 12 stick mags, not tube mags shotguns.

If it's bull I would like to know. Haven't run my own tests yet to test it out.

Loaded round will deform ??
And even if it did I doubt that would cause a failure to feed

Post by **guncrank1** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:24 pm

Bolt retracted and let fly
That shell would need to have a lip on it bigger than the diameter of the chamber not to feed.
Can you post a link to this??

Post by **guncrank1** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:27 pm

Modify a shell with the mashed shape and see if it feeds.
Go post this on KFA plenty of experts there.

Post by **guncrank1** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:30 pm

I bet problem is from deforming of mag lips than a smashed shell.

Post by **WLJ** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:43 pm

Just something I picked up in other forums where some have said it happen to them, didn't note the links.
Actually this is my only shotgun, never been a shotguner, I'm learning. Sounds I need to spend some time test this, any idea how long to let one sit like that to prove or disprove it? Different brands of shells may effect this.

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