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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 9:18 am

Only markings are posted and a serial # on the trigger guard. I'm thinking. 32 s&w, .38 is loose in the cylinder. It's pretty worn out, but cosmeticly decent. Any ideas on approximate value?
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Post by Wyldman » Tue May 31, 2016 9:33 am

My uncle had one of those in .38 S&W (NOT compatible with .38 Spl!). If it is .38 S&W, as I suspect, cartridges are going to be a bitch to find as they haven't been actively produced in decades.

It looks like a copy of S&W, which is what my uncle's was, with the S&W rollmark on the rear of the frame.

I have no idea as to it's value. If it is an S&W, it might be worth quite a bit, if it's a copy by High Standard, for instance, maybe not so much. I've never heard of the U.S Revolver Co. before.

I'll bet Dave will know something....

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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 9:40 am

I have a .38 S&W round and it's pretty loose in the cylinder. Doesn't fall through but it's close. That's why I'm thinking maybe .32 S&W.

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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 9:51 am

Second up, I'm thinking is a starter pistol. .22lr in the pic, I think a .22 short would even stick out. Absolutely no markings at all and doesn't lock up for shit...
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Post by ssracer » Tue May 31, 2016 10:01 am

If a .38 is loose in the cylinder, how would a smaller caliber be correct? Wouldn't that just be even more loose?

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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 10:18 am

Duh... Not thinking this morning! haha

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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 10:19 am

Is there anything slightly LARGER than a .38 S&W? Wow the brain just isn't going today...haha

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Post by ssracer » Tue May 31, 2016 10:26 am

Doesn't seem like they made them in anything bigger than .38 from what I can find
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Post by WLJ » Tue May 31, 2016 11:07 am

Don't forget 38 s&w and 38 Special are actually .36. So bear that in mind if a 38 loose in the cylinder.
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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 11:11 am

I couldn't find anything from back then that was slightly larger either.

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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 11:12 am

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Looks good to me... !!!:llama:!!! haha

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Post by WLJ » Tue May 31, 2016 11:13 am

41 long colt? Bullet dia was 38
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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 11:17 am

Could be... No idea where to even find one of those.
No way in hell would I shoot it anyway as out of time as it is anyway...haha

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Post by ssracer » Tue May 31, 2016 11:55 am

Haha. From what I have been reading these revolvers were loose as hell and pretty shitty quality...as demonstrated by your lock up pic there...lol

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Post by WLJ » Tue May 31, 2016 11:57 am

Just drop a 38 special in there and pull the trigger, what's the worst that can happen? :llama:

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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 12:00 pm

Why not go .357mag and have some real fun? haha

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Post by WLJ » Tue May 31, 2016 12:02 pm

Niceguy wrote:Why not go .357mag and have some real fun? haha
If it will close on a 357mag go for it.

Anyone have a good slow mo camera?



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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 12:32 pm

Hahaha

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Post by Mike » Tue May 31, 2016 1:54 pm

This is gonna be good!
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Post by guncrank1 » Tue May 31, 2016 2:37 pm

Niceguy wrote:I have a .38 S&W round and it's pretty loose in the cylinder. Doesn't fall through but it's close. That's why I'm thinking maybe .32 S&W.
.38 bigger than .32

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Post by Niceguy » Tue May 31, 2016 2:39 pm

It'll be fiiiiiiiiine... haha

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Post by guncrank1 » Tue May 31, 2016 2:39 pm

Suicide Soecials are worth 50-130.00

Timing correction is hand and bolt.

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Post by guncrank1 » Tue May 31, 2016 2:40 pm

Not sure of caliber , sounds like a 38/40.

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Post by WLJ » Tue May 31, 2016 3:31 pm

Niceguy wrote:I have a .38 S&W round and it's pretty loose in the cylinder. Doesn't fall through but it's close. That's why I'm thinking maybe .32 S&W.
You tried a 38 S&W or a 38 S&W Special?

38 S&W
Bullet diameter .361 in (9.2 mm)
Neck diameter .3855 in (9.79 mm)
Base diameter .3865 in (9.82 mm)

Rim diameter .440 in (11.2 mm)
Rim thickness .055 in (1.4 mm)
Case length .775 in (19.7 mm)
Overall length 1.240 in (31.5 mm)

38 S&W Special
Case type Rimmed, straight
Bullet diameter .357 in (9.1 mm)
Neck diameter .379 in (9.6 mm)
Base diameter .379 in (9.6 mm)

Rim diameter .44 in (11 mm)
Rim thickness .058 in (1.5 mm)
Case length 1.155 in (29.3 mm)
Overall length 1.55 in (39 mm)
Primer type Small pistol

According to the case dia numbers 38 S&W Special would be loose in a 38 S&W cylinder. Although the 38 special's length would probably keep you from closing the cylinder.
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Post by WLJ » Tue May 31, 2016 3:56 pm

Check out the case dia of the 38LC.
38 S&W Special would be loose in a 38LC cylinder as well.
But there the issue of length to contend with

38 Short Colt
Bullet diameter .375 for original heeled bullets, .358 for some modern loads
Neck diameter .379 in (9.6 mm)
Base diameter .379 in (9.6 mm)
Rim diameter .445 in (11.3 mm)
Rim thickness .060 in (1.5 mm)
Case length .765 in (19.4 mm)

38 Long Colt
Bullet diameter .361 in (9.2 mm)
Neck diameter .381 in (9.7 mm)
Base diameter .381 in (9.7 mm)
Rim diameter .445 in (11.3 mm)
Rim thickness .060 in (1.5 mm)
Case length 1.031 in (26.2 mm)
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