acr, msar, scar....

[CCRBUM]

So I'm a fan of the looks of all of these guns... But are they worth the price difference vs going with a $800 ar? I get that its a different gun but speaking function and accuracy... Are they worth the extra money for the cool looks? Thoughts please..

[shelbygoat]

head over to fnforum.net

there is a thread titled that

[DDgunslinger]

Long story short IMHO.... No they are not.

However to be fair I still want a SCAR just because

[ssracer]

I want a scar, but I want a 17

[Vividia]

SCAR is on my list.....

[etownguy]

I want a acr and scar.....

[jackalo626]

Want all three and need none. I don't see them being worth more in the price difference vs an AR per say as if you had to pick one rifle and one rifle only. I do however see the price difference in them being comparing apples to oranges in the fact that AR's are produced many places and using existing tooling for the last several years brings cost down vs newer designed rifles that are produced in way smaller batches. Some guys just like to have multiple toys/rifles and there is nothing wrong with that.

[Dave1965]

Depends on what you want them for and how you are fixed to purchase them. In my experience I prefer my Scars to ar's but I own both. Worth the money is relative term.

[WLJ]

acr, msar, scar..

Really don't see the ACR & SCAR bringing anything to the table that an AR doesn't despite costing 2x as much. The MSAR is almost in another category being a bullpup, and also costs 2x as much, though to be fair no quality bullpup is cheap.

[jackalo626]

acr, msar, scar..

Really don't see the ACR & SCAR bringing anything to the table that an AR doesn't despite costing 2x as much. The MSAR is almost in another category being a bullpup, and also costs 2x as much, though to be fair no quality bullpup is cheap.

Scar is piston system, quick change barrel, and folding stock to name a few. They shoot the same round but not really the same gun.

[bigelowe]

I like the scar, but do I need a scar......probably not. Ar's work for me and at a fraction of the cost.

[CCRBUM]

so sounds like a lot of "likes" for the higher end .. I get the piston an quick change barrel thing BUT.... does the piston make it function THAT much better? and addressing the barrel thing, can't you get an AR upper for around the same price as the barrel replacement on the SCAR? I also understand the price as far as the higher end guys being limited as far as production vs the AR being produced by EVERYONE... I've never shot a scar or acr or msar (or any other bullpup) so I'm just trying to figure out the draw to the short of their flat out badassness .. I mean will they out shoot an ar? Are they less problem prone? I ALSO realize when comparing them to high end AR's their price is not that much different and at that point I say go ACR or SCAR for the cool factor lol...

[CCRBUM]

head over to fnforum.net

there is a thread titled that

and now I'm going to go look at this

[jackalo626]

I like the scar, but do I need a scar......probably not. Ar's work for me and at a fraction of the cost.

Do you "need" an AR? Have you ever needed an AR?

[jackalo626]

so sounds like a lot of "likes" for the higher end .. I get the piston an quick change barrel thing BUT.... does the piston make it function THAT much better? and addressing the barrel thing, can't you get an AR upper for around the same price as the barrel replacement on the SCAR? I also understand the price as far as the higher end guys being limited as far as production vs the AR being produced by EVERYONE... I've never shot a scar or acr or msar (or any other bullpup) so I'm just trying to figure out the draw to the short of their flat out badassness .. I mean will they out shoot an ar? Are they less problem prone? I ALSO realize when comparing them to high end AR's their price is not that much different and at that point I say go ACR or SCAR for the cool factor lol...

Just preference man that's all. You can buy a Ferrari for $150k or a mustang for $30k and put $30k in it to make it walk all over the Ferrari but in the end you are driving a Mustang still. Some people like to be different or just like the costlier product because it might be better to them.

[CCRBUM]

I'm obviously going to need a range trip to shoot all of these side by side

[dbh]

I have never shot a gun and said "Gee, I wish I could change my barrel real fast"

[Toddstang]

so sounds like a lot of "likes" for the higher end .. I get the piston an quick change barrel thing BUT.... does the piston make it function THAT much better? and addressing the barrel thing, can't you get an AR upper for around the same price as the barrel replacement on the SCAR? I also understand the price as far as the higher end guys being limited as far as production vs the AR being produced by EVERYONE... I've never shot a scar or acr or msar (or any other bullpup) so I'm just trying to figure out the draw to the short of their flat out badassness .. I mean will they out shoot an ar? Are they less problem prone? I ALSO realize when comparing them to high end AR's their price is not that much different and at that point I say go ACR or SCAR for the cool factor lol...

Just preference man that's all. You can buy a Ferrari for $150k or a mustang for $30k and put $30k in it to make it walk all over the Ferrari but in the end you are driving a Mustang still. Some people like to be different or just like the costlier product because it might be better to them.

My thoughts as well.

[Dave1965]

I have never shot a gun and said "Gee, I wish I could change my barrel real fast"

Never been in the military and needed to change an m60 bbl then. Lol

[Dave1965]

I like the scar, but do I need a scar......probably not. Ar's work for me and at a fraction of the cost.

Do you "need" an AR? Have you ever needed an AR?

In civilian world. No.
Nor do I need 10 ar's or 4 1911s or really two of anything. It's cool or I like them. It is all about what someone either wants or has a perceived need A good chance to try a bunch of different guns is at one of the shoots at new haven.

[jackalo626]

I have never shot a gun and said "Gee, I wish I could change my barrel real fast"

Not the point of it helping specifically, I was naming a few of the things that separated it from an AR when the question was asked of what is different for the money.

[justang1997]

I think the msar is worth it. Or at least has the potential to be worth it. It offers sbr feel without the cost, hassle, and travel restrictions. Its ease of breaking down for cleaning or parts replacement has value too.

If only they had a .300blk barrel

[WLJ]

I think the msar is worth it. Or at least has the potential to be worth it. It offers sbr feel without the cost, hassle, and travel restrictions. Its ease of breaking down for cleaning or parts replacement has value too.

If only they had a .300blk barrel

It's listed as up and coming in their new catalog.

[shelbygoat]

I own a SCAR16s. Did I sell my ARs, no. Does it make the 5.56 round shoot better, no. Did I want one, was the right oppurtunity to buy one, and I had the means to get one...fuck yes.

[SNL]

With anything new like the rifles mentioned, you are paying for development over something existing like an ar. So on a dollar per oz of awesomeness scale the ar is going to be a better bargain..at least for awhile...unless they get banned then youll wish you bought one now....good luck op