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AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Toddstang » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:16 pm

Ok, getting really tired of the internet rumblings and gun store talk of which is the real AMD 65.
First off, Nodak Spud/DC Industries (Dan Coonan, owner of Nodak) built the AMD 65 from kits ( A few hundred to be exact) and then sold recievers to CAI for builds as well ( a few hundred). The Nodaks/DCI's have 1.5 Thick recievers and use authentic AMD parts kits.
Next comes the FEG TGI AMD 65's that came along later. A shit ton of these were imported from Hungary as single stack rifles and sent to Tennessee Gun Works to be opened up to accept double stack magazines. These were made in Hungary, but they are not the original AMD 65 like everyone keeps saying they are.
Take a look at any FEG model and compare it to the Nodak build. Yes some parts are the same, but some aren't. The barrel's and flash suppressors are a dead give away for one, the recievers, of course are another (The FEG is 1.0 thick) as well as some of the sight bases.
Anyhow, heard two guys talking about AMD's today at a gun store and didn't feel like jumping in as a know it all, but wanted to post up what I know about these guns.
BTW, Here is my Nodak Spud/DC I built AMD 65:
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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by son of liberty » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:28 pm

So...........Is that the gun they used on Heat?
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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Niceguy » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:37 pm

Damn I want an AMD65 or AMD65...haha Been wanting one for a while. Just not going to pay stupid a price for one.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Toddstang » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:38 pm

son of liberty wrote:So...........Is that the gun they used on Heat?
I believe it is.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:43 pm

I don't know anything about these so I've gotta ask. You mention all these names and manufactures but the receiver is stamped Century. What's that all about?


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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Toddstang » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:49 pm

Century used Nodak recievers to build AMD's from parts kits. These builds are one of Century's greatest accomplishments.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by SNL » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:52 pm

These are my favorite guns ever. Mine was a feg tgi. LOVED it and will really hate myself for selling if the prices never go back.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Toddstang » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:09 pm

Another difference in the two were the price tags. The FEG's could be had from Centerfire all day for $399 while the ones from builds were going for $550+

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Marcus » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:38 pm

I agree with everything you said Todd.




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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by gaston_kalash » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:40 pm

The barrel lengths are different aren't they a true Hungarian would of had a 12.5" barrel. I read a lot about kalashes but the amd has yo be my least favorite

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Livewire » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:44 pm

Toddstang wrote:Another difference in the two were the price tags. The FEG's could be had from Centerfire all day for $399 while the ones from builds were going for $550+
I like to refer to those as the good old days. I picked one of the FEG builds and went through several before I picked one based on the advice you gave me Todd. First three that came out had the awful cut and grind marks on the rear of the receiver.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by nemo » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:45 pm

Never had an issue with my FEG TGI build.


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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:46 pm

Toddstang wrote:Ok, getting really tired of the internet rumblings and gun store talk of which is the real AMD 65.
First off, Nodak Spud/DC Industries (Dan Coonan, owner of Nodak) built the AMD 65 from kits ( A few hundred to be exact) and then sold recievers to CAI for builds as well ( a few hundred). The Nodaks/DCI's have 1.5 Thick recievers and use authentic AMD parts kits.
Next comes the FEG TGI AMD 65's that came along later. A shit ton of these were imported from Hungary as single stack rifles and sent to Tennessee Gun Works to be opened up to accept double stack magazines. These were made in Hungary, but they are not the original AMD 65 like everyone keeps saying they are.
Take a look at any FEG model and compare it to the Nodak build. Yes some parts are the same, but some aren't. The barrel's and flash suppressors are a dead give away for one, the recievers, of course are another (The FEG is 1.0 thick) as well as some of the sight bases.
Anyhow, heard two guys talking about AMD's today at a gun store and didn't feel like jumping in as a know it all, but wanted to post up what I know about these guns.
BTW, Here is my Nodak Spud/DC I built AMD 65:
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That's a good looking rifle. I bet it's not very comfy to shoot with that stock on the back of it. Regardless of how well these are supposed to be, having the century name on it makes me extremely nervous.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by guncrank1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:49 pm

1fastmach1 wrote:I don't know anything about these so I've gotta ask. You mention all these names and manufactures but the receiver is stamped Century. What's that all about?


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Century is the maker of their AMD-65.

No sure but Novak could have made the receiver with a variance letter that said they did have to mark them.
Some receivers have " makers mark " on the side and underside .

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by guncrank1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:50 pm

nemo wrote:Never had an issue with my FEG TGI build.


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Got one in to put the AFG on
He wants a sling loop on the side and that the trigger was not returning.

Nepot, you have a good crisp return or did you have to replace it?
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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:52 pm

guncrank1 wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:I don't know anything about these so I've gotta ask. You mention all these names and manufactures but the receiver is stamped Century. What's that all about?


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Century is the maker of their AMD-65.

No sure but Novak could have made the receiver with a variance letter that said they did have to mark them.
Some receivers have " makers mark " on the side and underside .
That's good to know cranky. Thanks for the info good sir. I have normal ole AK myself but I like it.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by guncrank1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:58 pm

1fastmach1 wrote:
guncrank1 wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:I don't know anything about these so I've gotta ask. You mention all these names and manufactures but the receiver is stamped Century. What's that all about?


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Century is the maker of their AMD-65.

No sure but Novak could have made the receiver with a variance letter that said they did have to mark them.
Some receivers have " makers mark " on the side and underside .
That's good to know cranky. Thanks for the info good sir. I have normal ole AK myself but I like it.
I ment to say Century is the "maker" of their guns and are marked as such

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:04 pm

guncrank1 wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:
guncrank1 wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:I don't know anything about these so I've gotta ask. You mention all these names and manufactures but the receiver is stamped Century. What's that all about?


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Century is the maker of their AMD-65.

No sure but Novak could have made the receiver with a variance letter that said they did have to mark them.
Some receivers have " makers mark " on the side and underside .
That's good to know cranky. Thanks for the info good sir. I have normal ole AK myself but I like it.
I ment to say Century is the "maker" of their guns and are marked as such
I figured that's what you meant. :)

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Toddstang » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:34 pm

This is my favorite, most accurate AK. Even with the wire stock I can still hit cans and bowling pins at 100 yards with open sights.
Century has been building AK type rifles forever. Anyone, including myself can build an AK. There aint much too these things that you could mess up. Now Century building anything other than an AK would make me nervous.
And yes Cranky, Nodak made AMD recievers for years up till about 4 years ago.
I have heard that a few of the FEG's were cut down too much causing mag wobble and a few not cut enough causing some mags not to fit. Nothing that would stop me from buying one.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:38 pm

Off topic but mags are tight in my AK. I've only used tapco mags in mine. I have to trim tapco mags to get them to lock up. Is that normal for tapco? I wonder how a steel mag would lock up.


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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Toddstang » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:39 pm

1fastmach1 wrote:Off topic but mags are tight in my AK. I've only used tapco mags in mine. I have to trim tapco mags to get them to lock up. Is that normal for tapco? I wonder how a steel mag would lock up.


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WASR, Yugo, what model AK?

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by Toddstang » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:40 pm

Tapco is a brand I stay away from.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:42 pm

It's an m+m arms ak. I got a good deal on it at keens a few months back. I've never had a problem with it. It runs great.


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Post by Toddstang » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:45 pm

1fastmach1 wrote:It's an m+m arms ak. I got a good deal on it at keens a few months back. I've never had a problem with it. It runs great.


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Nice AK. I would try getting original European, Russian, etc mags and trying the fit on them.

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Re: AMD 65 vs AMD 65

Post by 1fastmach1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:50 pm

Toddstang wrote:
1fastmach1 wrote:It's an m+m arms ak. I got a good deal on it at keens a few months back. I've never had a problem with it. It runs great.


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Nice AK. I would try getting original European, Russian, etc mags and trying the fit on them.
Alrighty. Thanks for the tip. I'll try to find some. 111 had some steel ak mags on sale for like 7 bucks last time I was there. They had a whole crate full. I'm not sure what kind they were or if they were any count though.


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